How to remove an electrical ceiling rose and install new light

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    markstev27

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    HI.

    We need to remove an electrical ceiling rose from the living room as we have bought a new light that doesn't need it.

    How can we do this easily?

    The picture of the rose set up is included

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    Doghouse Riley

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    If you aren't confident about doing this then you should get in an electrician. I'm not even sure if you're legally allowed to tackle this yourself as the law changed in 2001.
    The simplest solution if I were to tackle this is, to disconnect the wires hanging down which I assume were for the light fitting.

    But I would first need to turn off the power for that floor's lighting circuit from the consumer unit
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    Turning it off from the wall won't isolate the power.

    The other wires you can see are part of the lighting circuit for the rest of the rooms on that floor and to the wall switch.
    I could buy a blanking cover to screw back over the rose, rather than remove the fitting and reconnecting the necessary wires for the rest of the rooms. After a week no one would notice the little round cover in the middle of the ceiling. Then if in the future a centre light was required it would be easy enough to reconnect it.
    Completely removing the rose would leave a hole in the ceiling, which would be difficult to patch.
     
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    Don Farrell

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    Are you in the United States? I ask because the colors of the wires seem to be from else where.

    First, very important question is whether or not you have a wall switch controlling this light. If yes, then you need to isolate the wires so you know which wire goes where.

    This is important because there are two types of switch loops that can feed lights.
     
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    The wires appear to be blue and brown. These are the standard European colours which have to be used now in domestic power installations. In the UK it used to be black and red. I could never understand why we had to change to the same as Europe.We 'd hardly likely to have something a minum of 22 miles away across the Channel on the same circuit . Someone must have made a lot of money out of this unnecessary change.
    The Americans are still on Imperial measurements, we went metric decades ago.

    A lot of houses here will still have black and red wiring. Until our house was re-wired a decade or so ago, the wiring in our sixties built house was black and red.

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