TOT How to run a successfully pub

[alan]

First, increase the prices to be the most expensive in the area.

Second, change the paint scheme on the outside of the pub from a mock
Tudor style with fake beams, which is a local landmark, to Army Khaki.

Third, re-brand the pub as a wine warehouse with an illuminated sign.

Fourth, employ an a blind interior designer who has never visited
a real pub.

Fifth, drape the "pub" with banners saying it is now a Thai Restaurant.

Sixth, make all the customers invisible to the bar staff.

Result: 50% of the pub sectioned off for the restaurant that on a
Saturday night had a grand total of zero customers and the two dozen pub
customers having trouble being served by the 4 bar staff who are having
a social event themselves at the end of the bar.


Well done Greene King, keep up the good work with your pub improvements.

Note: this was once a busy pub in bed-sit land where people have nothing
better to do than visit the pub - that's until the GK decided to go up
market.

 

[Adrian C]

Result: 50% of the pub sectioned off for the restaurant that on a
Saturday night had a grand total of zero customers and the two dozen pub
customers having trouble being served by the 4 bar staff who are having
a social event themselves at the end of the bar.

Well done Greene King, keep up the good work with your pub improvements.

Note: this was once a busy pub in bed-sit land where people have nothing
better to do than visit the pub - that's until the GK decided to go up
market.

It's part of a greater plan - to render it seemingly unprofitable and
then provide the excuse to knock it down and replace by flats. Been done
here, two popular pubs refurbished and pulled to the ground not shortly
after :-(

 

[harryagain]

It's part of a greater plan - to render it seemingly unprofitable and then
provide the excuse to knock it down and replace by flats. Been done here,
two popular pubs refurbished and pulled to the ground not shortly after
:-(

Yes, similar plan goes round here. The interveneing phase is it stands
empty derelict and subject to vandalism for a few years.

Also village shops, garages and post offices bought up cheap by wuzzers
prepared to chance it with the planners.
Round here, converted to posh residences.

 

[Brian Gaff]

This sounds like a classic case of not researching your market before you
commit yourself. well, in the current climate you do not get second chances
I guess.
Brian

 

[Brian Gaff]

Yes it does look like that, maybe somebody needs to research if the chain
has a property development subsidiary.

Brian

 

[stuart noble]

This sounds like a classic case of not researching your market before you
commit yourself. well, in the current climate you do not get second chances
I guess.
Brian

Meanwhile *spoons goes from strength to strength. Have dined in
Whitstable and Stowmarket in the last week, and found both to be
superbly run with "interesting" design concepts

 

[Tim Watts]

Meanwhile *spoons goes from strength to strength. Have dined in
Whitstable and Stowmarket in the last week, and found both to be
superbly run with "interesting" design concepts

And Table Table, the "pseudo pub" chain that are found next to a Premier Inn
(providing the breakfasts and meals) are a joy.

Despite being completely fake, the design and loyout of the one at Polegate,
Sussex, is really nice (the fakery is quite tasteful and interesting) and
the staff helpful - and clearly some "locals" go there too, despite it being
the unglamourous setting of a local service station.

So unless GK are a complete bunch of inept 'tards, I suspect their game plan
is long term redevelopment as others have suggested.

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[tony sayer]

And Table Table, the "pseudo pub" chain that are found next to a Premier Inn
(providing the breakfasts and meals) are a joy.

Despite being completely fake, the design and loyout of the one at Polegate,
Sussex, is really nice (the fakery is quite tasteful and interesting) and
the staff helpful - and clearly some "locals" go there too, despite it being
the unglamourous setting of a local service station.

So unless GK are a complete bunch of inept 'tards, I suspect their game plan
is long term redevelopment as others have suggested.

I've never been impressed with their beer/s they are IMHO rather bland
and indistinct. There is a local brewery who are acquiring a few pubs
and here in Cambridge have recently opened another, well saved another
from redevelopment, the Greyhound and Rosemary branch will soon have
exec flats on them as have a few other pub sites in the city.....


http://www.miltonbrewery.co.uk/pages/history/

and hopefully soon to open another in fact rebuild one!..

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Cambridge/Milton-Brewery-to-open-
Cambridges-first-new-pub-for-30-years-20130605133011.htm

 

[Mike Tomlinson]

From my recent visits to UK, sell to Tesco to make a Tesco Metro
convenience store?

Private Eye ran a wonderful cartoon some time ago with the three-legged
aliens from War of the Worlds blasting their way through the land, mit
Tesco logo.

Been trying to find a copy since.

 

[Bob Eager]

And Table Table, the "pseudo pub" chain that are found next to a Premier
Inn (providing the breakfasts and meals) are a joy.

Despite being completely fake, the design and loyout of the one at
Polegate,
Sussex, is really nice (the fakery is quite tasteful and interesting)
and the staff helpful - and clearly some "locals" go there too, despite
it being the unglamourous setting of a local service station.

So unless GK are a complete bunch of inept 'tards, I suspect their game
plan is long term redevelopment as others have suggested.

My son says the local one in Herne Bay is rubbish...crusted cod was
mostly crust, and overcooked.

He is a trainee chef, mind...

 

[Mr Pounder]

First, increase the prices to be the most expensive in the area.

Second, change the paint scheme on the outside of the pub from a mock
Tudor style with fake beams, which is a local landmark, to Army Khaki.

Third, re-brand the pub as a wine warehouse with an illuminated sign.

Fourth, employ an a blind interior designer who has never visited
a real pub.

Fifth, drape the "pub" with banners saying it is now a Thai Restaurant.

Sixth, make all the customers invisible to the bar staff.

Result: 50% of the pub sectioned off for the restaurant that on a Saturday
night had a grand total of zero customers and the two dozen pub customers
having trouble being served by the 4 bar staff who are having a social
event themselves at the end of the bar.


Well done Greene King, keep up the good work with your pub improvements.

Note: this was once a busy pub in bed-sit land where people have nothing
better to do than visit the pub - that's until the GK decided to go up
market.

Greene King have been buying up loss making pubs for years.
I think they have about 1600 now.

 

[stuart noble]

My son says the local one in Herne Bay is rubbish...crusted cod was
mostly crust, and overcooked.

He is a trainee chef, mind...

Superb fish and chips on the seafront as I recall. The Russian waitress
was rather tasty too

 

[Jim K]

Ask her, she's probly on the game too...

Jim K

 

[spuorgelgoog]

From my recent visits to UK, sell to Tesco to make a Tesco Metro
convenience store?

A Tesco Metro convenience store with flats over.

Very popular with planners; they get more housing, more shops, more jobs (or at least displaced jobs) as well as new conservatories.

Only joking about the conservatories, obviously.

Owain

 

[Bob Eager]

Superb fish and chips on the seafront as I recall. The Russian waitress
was rather tasty too

Best chips, anyway, are in Canterbury. City Fish Bar in St Margarets
Street.

Herne Bay... Nice restaurant just off the seafront, up the side of the
Ship Inn, at the eastern end. Called Riggings. Family run, three course
set meal (with choices) for 11 quid.

 

[The Medway Handyman]

From my recent visits to UK, sell to Tesco to make a Tesco Metro
convenience store?

Thats happened to a few pubs around here.

 

[jgh]

A Tesco Metro convenience store with flats over.
Very popular with planners; they get more housing, more shops, more jobs
(or at least displaced jobs) as well as new conservatories.
Only joking about the conservatories, obviously.

The planners get the conservatories, shirley?

JGH

 

[Bob Eager]

Gosh you must live in a posh place - it's Aldi around here.

Aldi convenience store????

 

[The Medway Handyman]

Gosh you must live in a posh place - it's Aldi around here.

Tesco don't knock the pub down, just convert it. They have recently
done the same with a builders merchant/DIY shop.