Woodworking term question

A

Andre Majorel

Suppose you're making a rectangular frame with planks, held
together by screws, nails or staples going through the planks
and into pieces of wood positioned inside the corners. How do
you call those pieces of wood ?

Screws
|
v
____________________
| |_______________| |
| |_| |?| | <-- Screws
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| |_ _| |
| |_|___________|_| |
|_|_______________|_|
 
A

Arfa Daily

Andre Majorel said:
Suppose you're making a rectangular frame with planks, held
together by screws, nails or staples going through the planks
and into pieces of wood positioned inside the corners. How do
you call those pieces of wood ?

Screws
|
v
____________________
| |_______________| |
| |_| |?| | <-- Screws
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| |_ _| |
| |_|___________|_| |
|_|_______________|_|
Corner braces maybe ?

Arfa
 
C

Cicero

Suppose you're making a rectangular frame with planks, held
together by screws, nails or staples going through the planks
and into pieces of wood positioned inside the corners. How do
you call those pieces of wood ?

Screws
|
v
____________________
| |_______________| |
| |_| |?| | <-- Screws
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| |_ _| |
| |_|___________|_| |
|_|_______________|_|
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Fillet, batten or cleat. 'Cleat' is probably more used in America than UK.
There may also be other regional names.

Cic.
 
T

The Natural Philosopher

Cicero said:
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Fillet, batten or cleat. 'Cleat' is probably more used in America than UK.
There may also be other regional names.

Cic.
occasionally gusset.
 
R

Rod

Cicero said:
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Fillet, batten or cleat. 'Cleat' is probably more used in America than UK.
There may also be other regional names.
Like this?

At your command
Before you here I stand,
My heart is in my hand. Ecch!
It's here that I must be.
My heart entreats,
Just hear those savage beats,
And go put on your cleats
And come and trample me.
Your heart is hard as stone or mahogany,
That's why I'm in such exquisite agony.

The Masochism Tango - Tom Lehrer

--
Rod

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C

Cicero

Like this?

At your command
Before you here I stand,
My heart is in my hand. Ecch!
It's here that I must be.
My heart entreats,
Just hear those savage beats,
And go put on your cleats
And come and trample me.
Your heart is hard as stone or mahogany,
That's why I'm in such exquisite agony.

The Masochism Tango - Tom Lehrer
==================================
Wrong 'cleat', I think, but a welcome blast from the past.

Cic.
 
A

Andre Majorel

Fillet, batten or cleat. 'Cleat' is probably more used in
America than UK. There may also be other regional names.
Thanks. Isn't "batten" the kind of lumber you'd make them from,
rather than their function ?
 
T

terry

Thanks. Isn't "batten" the kind of lumber you'd make them from,
rather than their function ?

--
André Majorel <URL:http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/>
"Cette supposition rappelle assez celle de ce prédicateur qui, en
pleine chaire, faisait remarquer à ses fidèles la bonté de Dieu qui
avait placé les rivières auprès des villes." -- Alexandre Dumas- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
I think not. AFIK 'A batten' (noun) is an item that could be made of a
variety of materials; wood, plastic, metal etc.
Something like 'header', 'beam', 'soffit', 'stud', 'sheathing' or (on
a ship) a 'hatch cover' all of which can be comprised of several types
of materials. Hence the marine term, 'Everything battened down' i.e.
fastened down securly, especially during heavy weather to keep the sea
out.
 
T

The Natural Philosopher

Andy said:
Well to keep to my nautical theme, my understanding is that old hatch
covers were wood covered in canvas. In serious weather they'd get other
bits of wood and nail them on top - and they are the battens.

Nothing like sail battens of course (which are best known to non-sailors
as the bits of wood in the sails of a Chinese Junk)

Andy
I think you have ut not quite right.

The hatches didn'y have covers: they were (in bad weather) waterproofed
with canvas simply tied over to keep the rain or sea out.

Battening down the hatches consisted in reinforcing the ropes by nailing
thin strips of batten all around the hatch.

Sail batten is the same material essentially, which may be why they had
it 'in stock'.

A batten is a strip of wood usually wider than it is deep. That's all.

I have no idea what a cleat is. I thought it was a pair of posts you
wound a rope round.

Fillet is the generic term for a bit of substance that site between two
other bits.


A gusset is a strengthening piece of fillet.
 
C

Cicero

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I think you have ut not quite right.

The hatches didn'y have covers: they were (in bad weather) waterproofed
with canvas simply tied over to keep the rain or sea out.

Battening down the hatches consisted in reinforcing the ropes by nailing
thin strips of batten all around the hatch.

Sail batten is the same material essentially, which may be why they had
it 'in stock'.

A batten is a strip of wood usually wider than it is deep. That's all.

I have no idea what a cleat is. I thought it was a pair of posts you
wound a rope round.

Fillet is the generic term for a bit of substance that site between two
other bits.


A gusset is a strengthening piece of fillet.
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In addition to the meanings already quoted, 'cleat' has several different
meanings, including the winged bit of metal (usually screwed to woodwork)
used for securing ropes. It also means a kind of snap-in clip on the soles
of cycling shoes. The 'cleats' referred to in the Tom Lehrer song are
almost certainly a type of heavy wedge-shaped shoe common in the 1950s
which were called 'wedges' or 'wedge shoes' here in the UK.

Cic.
 
T

The Natural Philosopher

Cicero said:
==================================
In addition to the meanings already quoted, 'cleat' has several different
meanings, including the winged bit of metal (usually screwed to woodwork)
used for securing ropes. It also means a kind of snap-in clip on the soles
of cycling shoes. The 'cleats' referred to in the Tom Lehrer song are
almost certainly a type of heavy wedge-shaped shoe common in the 1950s
which were called 'wedges' or 'wedge shoes' here in the UK.

Cic.
Right. I wonder if 'cleat' comes from the same root as 'cleave' - i.e.
to grab onto.

Wedges ratchets and self locking rope anchors as well as bike clips all
come into that category..
 
R

Rod

The said:
Right. I wonder if 'cleat' comes from the same root as 'cleave' - i.e.
to grab onto.
cleat (klēt)

noun

1. a piece of wood, metal, or plastic, often wedge-shaped, fastened
to something to strengthen it or give secure footing: cleats are used on
gangways, under shelves, on the soles or heels of shoes, etc.
2. Naut. a small metal or wood fitting fixed as to the deck of a
ship and used to secure a rope, specif. one with projecting ends

Etymology: ME clete < OE *cleat (WGmc *klaut), a lump < IE *g(e)l-eu- <
base *gel-: see climb

transitive verb

to fasten to or with a cleat

<http://www.yourdictionary.com/cleat>

cleave (klēv)

transitive verb cleaved or cleft or clove, cleaved or cleft or clo′·ven,
cleav′·ing

1. to divide by a blow, as with an ax; split
2. to pierce
3. to sever; disunite

Etymology: ME cleven < OE cleofan; akin to Ger klieben < IE base
*gleubh-, to cut, slice > Gr glyphein, carve, L glubere, to peel

intransitive verb

1. to split; separate; fall apart
2. to make one's way by or as by cutting

<http://www.yourdictionary.com/cleave>


(There is more, such as examples of usage, at the URLs quoted.)

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>
 

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