Up On The Roof


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Rich@work

Great song.

Went on a call today (wish I had some pics) here's what I saw.

Split system, Condenser on roof. The wiring was cool. They ran
the refrigerant piping and ROMEX through what looked like a homemade
pitch pocket and sealed it up w/ roof tar.

Now, when I say Romex, I mean ROMEX.....Indoor Romex. No disconnect.

Over the years the sheathing had come off the Romex and it was
starting to come off the individual wires to the point where you
could see bare fucking wire exposed to the weather.

I went to the strip mall owner and told him I wasn't gonna work on
this one, he wanted to know why....I said, "follow me".

He did. I showed him.

He told me he thought he had been getting fucked by the present HVAC
company...That's why he called me.

I got that strip mall and two others that he owns.

Ain't hacks great?
 
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lkapigian

Soon you will realize that is the type of work the owner is willing to
pay for-

we see this crap daily- most contractors in our area don't know what a
micron gauge is, rarely install a drier ( why, there is one in the
condenser they say )and the vaccuum pump is only used to prevent there
refrigerant bottles from rolling around in the back of the
truck..........balancing dampers you say, thats what the adjustment on
the grill is for, right?- Super heat, sub cooling, thats NASA
stuff-----ductwork, as the crow flies.....

Its tough for us in my area where the hacks are now larger in number
than legit contractors- the hacks now set the price.......we wont
submit to hack the job- its always done to UMC ASHRAE and SMACNA
standards, with them bringing the pricing down it just slowly kills
our the profit-
 
K

~KJPRO~

Great song.

Went on a call today (wish I had some pics) here's what I saw.

Split system, Condenser on roof. The wiring was cool. They ran
the refrigerant piping and ROMEX through what looked like a homemade
pitch pocket and sealed it up w/ roof tar.

Now, when I say Romex, I mean ROMEX.....Indoor Romex. No disconnect.

Over the years the sheathing had come off the Romex and it was
starting to come off the individual wires to the point where you
could see bare fucking wire exposed to the weather.

I went to the strip mall owner and told him I wasn't gonna work on
this one, he wanted to know why....I said, "follow me".

He did. I showed him.

He told me he thought he had been getting fucked by the present HVAC
company...That's why he called me.

I got that strip mall and two others that he owns.

Ain't hacks great?
They create a lot of work, but it would be nice to have done the job right
the first time!

I see all kinds of shit like you said here.

(Romex, 14-2 UF *for 30 amp run & breaker*, no dis-connects, no filters,
undersized "old" line sets, no seal-tite, loose or wrong ends, etc. etc.)

~kjpro~
 
N

Noon-Air

bill said:
It's amazing the amount of various people and techs who moonlight and
seem to dominate the residential market. Hard to compete with assholes
who don't pay for licences, taxes, insurance or much else.
I just ran across another one here....read him the riot act and explained to
him about how much money he is losing by not playing by the rules. I
explained to him about insurance, mechanical license (not business license),
going back to school to learn the right way to do it.

I don't mind legitimate competition....I can live with that. What I have a
hard time with are the ignorant jacklegs that do it for nothing and cause
the general public to think that *ALL* of the HVAC contractors should be
charging $35 for a service call and $15/hr.
 
C

CBHVAC

Noon-Air said:
I just ran across another one here....read him the riot act and explained to
him about how much money he is losing by not playing by the rules. I
explained to him about insurance, mechanical license (not business license),
going back to school to learn the right way to do it.

I don't mind legitimate competition....I can live with that. What I have a
hard time with are the ignorant jacklegs that do it for nothing and cause
the general public to think that *ALL* of the HVAC contractors should be
charging $35 for a service call and $15/hr.


--
Steve @ Noon-Air Heating & A/C
(e-mail address removed)
The jawbone of an ass is just as dangerous now
as it was in Sampsons time.

Got one that I have to deal with now...about 2 years ago, I was doing ALOTof
work for this one real estate company. The two that ran it were going to get
married, and as luck would have it, they broke up.
Anyway, about at the end of it, they had me check this lake house
unit...nothng special, a Goodman 1.5 ton unit..crappy installaton..ductboard
was cut for a filter that was non existant, the outside unit looked like it
was used for mower target practice, and it was full of mud.
I suggested a replacement, and he stated that he had a guy that could fix
it...he just wanted me to get it running for another year....
oooookay....(thinking, pay me now, or pay me later) So...he got things put
back as right as they could go..cleaned both coils, re-ran the drain, sealed
the ductboard...etc..
Now, he moved in the hack that he had working on it..its a rental of
course..and again...tis not working..
Get there, and
The condensor looks like it lost the battle with the mower, and mud.
The evap looks like a solid fuzzy mass
/Filter????
Never heard a contactor chatter like this one is

Oh..and the water is currently off.............

His words...make it run for another year....
My words?
You got that and then some..its been 2 years since you told me to get
another year out of it...you didnt listen, you have this idiot fucking with
it, and you expect me to work a mircle. The only damn salvation you get
today is that I dont charge the hell out of you for wasting my time. New
unit, or $1500 to repair this one..

Permits get pulledthis afternoon.

Now, the most wonderful feeling in the world is, that I am going to put MY
sign in the front yard of a known hacks home...AND nstall his unit...
This...is poetic justice.
 
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Split system, Condenser on roof. The wiring was cool. They ran
the refrigerant piping and ROMEX through what looked like a homemade
pitch pocket and sealed it up w/ roof tar.
What's the alternative to a pitch pocket for running refrigerant piping and conduit through a pitched shingle roof?
 
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