Ok..I must be doing something...wrong...:)


K

kjpro

Umm...so...I guess the question is..when are people gonna learn that doing
the job RIGHT, gets you more biz than hacking and running?
Yep, was at this house and they said "it's had a small leak for years"

Well it's only 7 yrs old.
I hook up the gauges, and there's 70 lbs of pressure on the system.
Go looking around...........what's this??
Get the BIG BLUE out and...............
...........there it is.............right there......
.......see the bubbles???

Ya, that's a bad coil.............need a new one.

Can't you fix??...........NO, not there.
(it's right at the fins, multiple leaks)

New one getting install MON.
The bad thing is, it's out of warranty now.

If someone would have found the leak before now, it had a 5 yr warranty.


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CBHvac

Was ripping out an old duct system and Sears gas unit yesterday, in
preperation for Mondays install of a heat pump, and duct...
Get a call from an older customer...installed about 10 units for him on
various rentals over the last 3 years...his wifes sisters unit is out.

Finish stacking old rusty duct up, and ran a stat wire real fast, and headed
up their way..I get there, and they have a Goodman, in various stages of
being ripped apart...lid off...compressor leads hanging...3 caps and a hard
start....(THREE CAPS????)
I swear...this is the conversation..

HO- Well, I know its the compressor, and Shane said you were able to get to
it today.

Me-Umm....ok...stop. First, who did all this? Why did they leave it like
this? And where is the disconnect?

HO-Just tell me how long its going to take to fix it, and I dont have a damn
idea.

Me-Ok...give me a few moments...and I will tell you..(gets meter out, checks
comp real fast to se if its in thermal, or shorted to ground..etc)

HO-look..hes already done that....its bad..

Me-Ok...WHO?

HO-Williamsons...

Me-giggle..

HO-Look...price me the compressor and I will tell you if you can do it or
not..I know its not in warranty, its 100 degrees in there...

Me-(by this time, I have gotten the right cap out of the van, wired it
in...put the compressor leads on, put the fan lid back in place, found the
breaker for disconnect..tossed the hard start, rewired the contactor since
two of thewires are loose...and......lo and behold...unit runs...)

Me-How much did he quote you for a warranty compressor, on a compressor that
was wired wrong, had some screwed up cap system on it, and left you to
suffer till Monday?

HO-its running? $2300.....but...its running? I told you its not warranty its
running????

Me-Its running, its in warranty, THIS mess wasnt warranty...this mess was a
hacked in pos..


Anyway...longer story short, its running, the husband came out and was
amazed at the fan speed..of all things...amazing what a right cap can
do...we checked superheat....something they never saw before..(gee..I wonder
why?) Checked and then serviced the indoor unit, and cleaned the outdoor
coil...rechecked, and took off 3lbs of 22....sucker was only pulling 7amps
on run leg...and actually quiet...
Now...Sat night..they already been taken for over $200 that day....and God
knows what on the hack fixes...so I made a deal, made a couple of
bucks...they are amazed..... and then, they ask...have you got time to look
at another unit?
Umm..its late..but sure..
Looked at the aunts unit for them..same guys serviced it....old ThermoPride
oil, with Goodman outdoor...shot...hacked in...garbage...Oil units rusted to
hell around the burner...case is barely together...evap coil is
clogged...outdoor units screamin....shes getting a new system
Thursday...permits pulling on Monday...
Can you look at ONE more??
umm..why the hell not?
VFW house...got a condensate leak from hell.....on all 4 units....SAME
company just declared them up to speed...and good for another 5 years at
least....
Well....they aint..old GEs..pans, and everything under em rusted
out...package units...on the roof....leaking into everywhere...bad duct
transitions...
Got the crane coming in next Sat....pulling permits on Monday...

Umm...so...I guess the question is..when are people gonna learn that doing
the job RIGHT, gets you more biz than hacking and running?
 
P

pjm

Me-How much did he quote you for a warranty compressor, on a compressor that
was wired wrong, had some screwed up cap system on it, and left you to
suffer till Monday?

HO-its running? $2300.....but...its running? I told you its not warranty its
running????
LO freaking L :)


Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
 
J

JJC

CBHvac said:
Umm...so...I guess the question is..when are people gonna learn that doing
the job RIGHT, gets you more biz than hacking and running?
I think they'd have to actually show up for an appointment - or at least
return a phone call, first!

I have been trying to get someone to do a job for me in Southeastern CT
since mid April. No one returns calls and this who end up calling back and
cancelling appointments the day I am expecting them.

Over the past ten years, I have been doing my own structural remodeling,
electrical, plumbing, tilework, hardwood floor finishing - you name it. I
worked for a small construction company to get through college and get a
degree in mechanical engineering. Based on that work experience and my
schooling, I have been able to do just fine on a whole bunch of jobs around
the house. In fact, I just spent my 2 weeks of summer vacation doing some
white cedar siding/shingling at the house.

I guess now I need to study up on HVAC and get a license to handle freon so
I can do my own damn HVAC install. Last summer, I had my oil company
install a unit and it never cooled the house down, so they ripped it out,
refunded my money, and installed it on another job. It has to be faster and
more satisfying than waiting for someone who already knows how to do it to
actually show up and do it...unless anyone here can recommend someone in SE
CT.

JJC
 
P

pjm

I think they'd have to actually show up for an appointment - or at least
return a phone call, first!

I have been trying to get someone to do a job for me in Southeastern CT
since mid April. No one returns calls and this who end up calling back and
cancelling appointments the day I am expecting them.

Over the past ten years, I have been doing my own structural remodeling,
electrical, plumbing, tilework, hardwood floor finishing - you name it. I
worked for a small construction company to get through college and get a
degree in mechanical engineering. Based on that work experience and my
schooling, I have been able to do just fine on a whole bunch of jobs around
the house. In fact, I just spent my 2 weeks of summer vacation doing some
white cedar siding/shingling at the house.

I guess now I need to study up on HVAC and get a license to handle freon so
I can do my own damn HVAC install. Last summer, I had my oil company
install a unit and it never cooled the house down, so they ripped it out,
refunded my money, and installed it on another job. It has to be faster and
more satisfying than waiting for someone who already knows how to do it to
actually show up and do it...unless anyone here can recommend someone in SE
CT.

JJC
Are you looking to buy a package of system and installation,
with ductwork as needed, etc, or do you have one / gonna buy one
yourself, and you just want someone to put it in ?




Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
 
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JJC

Are you looking to buy a package of system and installation,
with ductwork as needed, etc, or do you have one / gonna buy one
yourself, and you just want someone to put it in ?
Package. There is pre-existing ductwork (poorly insulated return) in place
in the attic with a ceiling vent in each room - definitely need to install a
coil, a unit, and run the electrical. May be better off with new flexible
duct for the return. Attic gets really hot, so I plan on installing a fan
to blow the hot air out.
 
P

pjm

Package. There is pre-existing ductwork (poorly insulated return) in place
in the attic with a ceiling vent in each room - definitely need to install a
coil, a unit, and run the electrical. May be better off with new flexible
duct for the return. Attic gets really hot, so I plan on installing a fan
to blow the hot air out.
Then I'm really suprised that you're not getting interested
companies. It's not like we're in a heat wave or something....



Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
 
C

CBHvac

Bob Loblaw said:
CBHvac wrote


Is the run amperage something that a tech can check to diagnose an
overcharge situation?

Respectfully, Bob
If its REALLY overloaded..yea..but, I was checking to see how close to RLA
it was....
But, amps go down when its cool...and up when its hot...so...its not a great
way to say..ok..overloaded...
 
B

Bubba

There is a great tool store in the Hartford, CT area that I have been buying
tools at since 1994. Even though I am just a homeowner with a passion for
powertools, the guys there are never condescending and always helpful. A
few years ago, they set up an online store - which is handy for checking
against before taking the drive over. I checked to see if they had the same
combo kit - I think it is this one ($489).

http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/...29.htm?L+coastest+zzjf1410ffca29ca+1057637758

Just thought I'd share this with y'all who might not have known as a thanks
for providing me with some good info about HVAC installs - mostly through my
lurking and reading. I should also mention that I have no relationship to
this shop other than as a satisfied customer.

Oh, and it's kind of ironic that they moved to a location directly opposite
Home Depot. I think it was a smart move, since I often pick up materials at
HD and then stop at coastal to pick up the tools I need.

JJC
That is the kit EXCEPT where is the Milwaukee jobsite radio? For $499
mine came with the radio too!
Bubba
 
C

CBHvac

All GE caps, dual, suck..


Joseph said:
I didn't remember to check the mfg. but york condensers have the same
problem on theirs...

I see a dozen bad dual caps a year on them...

Joseph <'><


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CBHvac

REL said:
got the 0923-25 cheapest spot online i can find is 569 now.

locally i can not find it for under 700 other than cheapo.

got the free battery as well.

the one i am talking about bubba has the sawzall with the folding
handle making it fit between studs and other tight spots. the link
went to the original cordless type they offered.
The Hatchet...
great little thing...
hell if you got it for five you done great, i screwed up and wasted 50
bucks as it went up, but the spare change was not there and first rule
of savings it it is just that, savings lol. had to get a nice fat job
and work too hard in the heat before i would buy it!

the other rich
I got the kit piecemeal..and I tell you now..that POS light you get with the
kit...sucks..I dont have that little thing...the one I got, is HUGE compared
to it..

But..I DID only pay $50 for the 18V drill, with case, and charger, and
batts..
 

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