Often worth a quick look. ;-)


T

T i m

Hi All,

Yesterday I thought it was probably the final end for our fairly old
but good Zanussi TD-534 conventionally flued tumble dryer.

I say final end because it's survived (the dump) on a couple previous
occasions, the first being the rear bearing [1], then the belt tension
pulley [2], then the belt itself.

Since the new belt it's been making some new noises (mostly put down
to the new belt being tighter or some such) and yesterday the Mrs
tells me she heard it stop, went to empty it and noted the drum
wouldn't rotate by hand as it normally does. She also noted the
clothes weren't quite as dry as normal so turned it on again to finish
them off. It wouldn't run at all so turned it off and told me.

Today we lifted it out, took it to bits and I found the motor was
pretty well seized solid. I removed the motor, took off the blower and
plastic mounts and then, working on the 'nothing to lose' principal,
(marked then) split the motor. As suspected, one of the bearings was
very tight and again with the 'nothing to lose' approach gave it a
spray with some Teflon cycle lube (but working on the premise that I
was going to order two new 6001ZZ bearings on Monday). However, after
working the bad bearing back and forth and a bit more spray it soon
started to move freely and was soon feeling very smooth again. ;-)

Anyway, after blowing both bearings out with the compressor and
re-lubing them with some medium weight oil it's all back together and
running quieter than it has for ages, plus I now know the bearings are
cheap, plentiful and easy to change if it turns out I do need to get
some.

Oh, and it was all done with a small hex driver, a Pozi No2 and the
Leatherman PSTII. ;-)

Not rocket science or nuffink, just nice to be able to old-skool 'fix'
something now and again in this throw-away world.

Cheers, T i m

[1] The drum spigot had worked it's way through the rear bearing and
half it's mounting plate, damaging the spigot in the process. Luckily
you can buy a replacement spigot so I just drilled out the rivets and
bolted the new one on with cap headed stainless bolts and nylock nuts.

[2] The plain metal bush had collapsed on the old plastic belt tension
pulley so I bored it out in the Myford lathe and fitted two new
suitably_bored_out oil-lite bushes. New pulleys are available quite
cheap but I'd have to order it and wait for delivery. That was another
'give it a go' moment that's been fine for 6 months so far. ;-)
 
J

John

T i m said:
Hi All,

Yesterday I thought it was probably the final end for our fairly old
but good Zanussi TD-534 conventionally flued tumble dryer.

I say final end because it's survived (the dump) on a couple previous
occasions, the first being the rear bearing [1], then the belt tension
pulley [2], then the belt itself.

Since the new belt it's been making some new noises (mostly put down
to the new belt being tighter or some such) and yesterday the Mrs
tells me she heard it stop, went to empty it and noted the drum
wouldn't rotate by hand as it normally does. She also noted the
clothes weren't quite as dry as normal so turned it on again to finish
them off. It wouldn't run at all so turned it off and told me.

Today we lifted it out, took it to bits and I found the motor was
pretty well seized solid. I removed the motor, took off the blower and
plastic mounts and then, working on the 'nothing to lose' principal,
(marked then) split the motor. As suspected, one of the bearings was
very tight and again with the 'nothing to lose' approach gave it a
spray with some Teflon cycle lube (but working on the premise that I
was going to order two new 6001ZZ bearings on Monday). However, after
working the bad bearing back and forth and a bit more spray it soon
started to move freely and was soon feeling very smooth again. ;-)

Anyway, after blowing both bearings out with the compressor and
re-lubing them with some medium weight oil it's all back together and
running quieter than it has for ages, plus I now know the bearings are
cheap, plentiful and easy to change if it turns out I do need to get
some.

Oh, and it was all done with a small hex driver, a Pozi No2 and the
Leatherman PSTII. ;-)

Not rocket science or nuffink, just nice to be able to old-skool 'fix'
something now and again in this throw-away world.

Cheers, T i m

[1] The drum spigot had worked it's way through the rear bearing and
half it's mounting plate, damaging the spigot in the process. Luckily
you can buy a replacement spigot so I just drilled out the rivets and
bolted the new one on with cap headed stainless bolts and nylock nuts.

[2] The plain metal bush had collapsed on the old plastic belt tension
pulley so I bored it out in the Myford lathe and fitted two new
suitably_bored_out oil-lite bushes. New pulleys are available quite
cheap but I'd have to order it and wait for delivery. That was another
'give it a go' moment that's been fine for 6 months so far. ;-)
So what would be your preventative maintenance recommendation? A bi-annual
strip clean and lube?
 
T

T i m

So what would be your preventative maintenance recommendation? A bi-annual
strip clean and lube?
Funny, I was thinking about that ... the extra 'noise' that appeared
after the belt change (but I think was a co-incidence) and how with
hindsight I could have looked closer at it then.

Dad used to say, "Were there's noise there's wear" but he also used to
say "Don't fix what's not broken ...".

For things that are predictable, like the need to change engine oil at
regular intervals then I guess a bit of routine maintenance is a good
thing (both because of the fresh oil and in the doing you may spot
other signs / issues) but I'm not sure how often you would find
anything if the took the back off yer tumble dryer or washing machine?

However, now I know the routine with this particular tumble dryer (and
the 'irreparable washing machine that's now lasted a year after being
written off) I guess I could give them a check over once in a while.

Cheers, T i m
 
T

Tim Watts

Hi All,

Yesterday I thought it was probably the final end for our fairly old
but good Zanussi TD-534 conventionally flued tumble dryer.

I say final end because it's survived (the dump) on a couple previous
occasions, the first being the rear bearing [1], then the belt tension
pulley [2], then the belt itself.

Since the new belt it's been making some new noises (mostly put down
to the new belt being tighter or some such) and yesterday the Mrs
tells me she heard it stop, went to empty it and noted the drum
wouldn't rotate by hand as it normally does. She also noted the
clothes weren't quite as dry as normal so turned it on again to finish
them off. It wouldn't run at all so turned it off and told me.

Today we lifted it out, took it to bits and I found the motor was
pretty well seized solid. I removed the motor, took off the blower and
plastic mounts and then, working on the 'nothing to lose' principal,
(marked then) split the motor. As suspected, one of the bearings was
very tight and again with the 'nothing to lose' approach gave it a
spray with some Teflon cycle lube (but working on the premise that I
was going to order two new 6001ZZ bearings on Monday). However, after
working the bad bearing back and forth and a bit more spray it soon
started to move freely and was soon feeling very smooth again. ;-)

Anyway, after blowing both bearings out with the compressor and
re-lubing them with some medium weight oil it's all back together and
running quieter than it has for ages, plus I now know the bearings are
cheap, plentiful and easy to change if it turns out I do need to get
some.

Good man!
 
T

T i m

Good man!
Cheers. ;-)

The thing is, apart from the small sense of satisfaction one gets when
you do get a result like that (I guess part of the reason some of us
frequent uk.d-i-y in the first place) but partly because we didn't
have to wait 'to get a man round' and I can sorta offset the cost of
what that would have been against the extra energy we may be using on
this older unit and worse, the cost (in both production /
deconstruction energy and straight financial) over a new one.

Plus there is the fact that we 'know' this one, it fits in the space
(finding a external venting machine with a left side exit isn't that
easy these days) and it's supposed to be auto-sensing (not sure how
well that's working though).

Now I fully know how simple it is and how little there is left to
replace then I can't see it being a problem again for a while
<touching wood>. ;-)

Cheers again.

T i m
 
T

T i m

Reminds me of the Creda we have in the garage - used almost every day,
but not fit to be seen the house any more.
Awww :-(
My mum bought it in about
1970. I sometimes use it as supplementary heating in the garage too
(3kw).
That's a bit of lateral thinking. ;-)
New belts & filters (several),
Ours has wipe able filters
new capacitor,
First time I've touched out cap was yesterday when I released it from
the mounting to remove the motor rather than pulling the wires off.
home made new main
bearing.
Nice. I was going to make a bearing but the spigot had worn through
the bearing and half way through it's mounting plate before the new
noises told us something was wrong. However, I think the whole
assembly was around 20 quid delivered so not too bad (and certainly
quicker and easier than re-fabricating it all).
I do an annual service on it - mostly removing dust.
We generally run the vacuum round anything (suitable) we take apart,
just because it makes it cleaner and easier to work on.
I shall be
sad to see it go when we finally get a round tuit.
I bet. Similar with Mums washing machine. It's a very old Hotpoint
with basically a start and stop button and it's sorta infused itself
with their house after all the years (in fact I think it's actually
holding one end of the sink up). The last time I had to look at it for
her it was (just) a belt. The Mrs was on her way back from somewhere
and she picked up a new one from a local shop and I'd got it fitted
before Mum had got round to making us both a cuppa.

My only question to Mum before I started looking at it was "does it
still wash ok". She said "yes" and that was all I needed to hear. ;-)

Cheers, T i m
 
J

Jules Richardson

Anyway, after blowing both bearings out with the compressor and
re-lubing them with some medium weight oil it's all back together and
running quieter than it has for ages, plus I now know the bearings are
cheap, plentiful and easy to change if it turns out I do need to get
some.

Oh, and it was all done with a small hex driver, a Pozi No2 and the
Leatherman PSTII. ;-)
Yeah, I like old dryers for that reason... simple engineering and very
little to go wrong in them. No way would I want a modern one with any
kind of computer control and electronic readout! :)

Ours has to be 1970s and still going nicely. It's worth taking them to
bits once every couple of years I think just to clean them out; I found a
good build-up of crud in ours and it was taking twice as long to dry
stuff as it needed to (I suspect a lot of folk get rid of old dryers for
this reason, thinking that there's something wrong with them)

cheers

Jules
 
P

Piers Finlayson

Yeah, I like old dryers for that reason... simple engineering and very
little to go wrong in them. No way would I want a modern one with any
kind of computer control and electronic readout! :)

Ours has to be 1970s and still going nicely. It's worth taking them to
bits once every couple of years I think just to clean them out; I found a
good build-up of crud in ours and it was taking twice as long to dry
stuff as it needed to (I suspect a lot of folk get rid of old dryers for
this reason, thinking that there's something wrong with them)
I found my wedding ring that had been missing for two years when I took
our dryer apart. Oops.
 
T

T i m

Yeah, I like old dryers for that reason... simple engineering and very
little to go wrong in them.
I did have to buy a long nut-runner because the back panel is held on
with 2 x posi and 4 x hex headed self tappers, two down the bottom of
long tubes?
No way would I want a modern one with any
kind of computer control and electronic readout! :)
Agreed. Whilst I like 'electronics' I don't really want any in my
white goods or motor vehicles.
Ours has to be 1970s and still going nicely. It's worth taking them to
bits once every couple of years I think just to clean them out; I found a
good build-up of crud in ours and it was taking twice as long to dry
stuff as it needed to (I suspect a lot of folk get rid of old dryers for
this reason, thinking that there's something wrong with them)
I'm sure you are right [1]. With ours there does seem to be a faster
general build-up of internal dust but I guess that's to be expected
after so many years of doing it's thing. When the front lip of the
drum finally wears away (I've replaced the felt 'bearing') I think
that really will be it.

Cheers, T i m

[1] With ours it's usually down to the flap / grille on the external
wall vent that gets blocked.

p.s. I can't remember the number of (especially) Dyson cleaners I've
saved from going to or salvaged from the tip that simply needed a good
clean out. How can someone chuck away something of that sorta value
(~£200) for the sake of a clean?
 
S

S Viemeister

p.s. I can't remember the number of (especially) Dyson cleaners I've
saved from going to or salvaged from the tip that simply needed a good
clean out. How can someone chuck away something of that sorta value
(~£200) for the sake of a clean?
Especially since Dysons are so easy to take apart and clean out.
 
T

T i m

Especially since Dysons are so easy to take apart and clean out.
Absolutely!

Step daughter was round and mentioned she needed a bigger cleaner. I
looked on Freecycle and someone was offering two, one being a Dyson,
neither were working. I emailed her and got a reply back with minutes
so popped round there and collected the Dyson straight away (and gave
her a bottle of wine I'd been previously given). ;-)

When I got back stepdaughter was still there and found and removed the
blockage while she watched.

She didn't take it there and then so it gave me time to strip it right
down and wash all the (non electrical <g>) parts in the bath and she
picked it up next time looking like new (with new filters).

The DC05 I picked up from Freecycle was "dead and going to the tip"
had it not been collected by a Freecycler. One trimmed mains lead and
new 13A plug later ... ;-)

I only realised the Rover 218SD I bought off a mate for £100 (with 6
months TAX, 2 new tyres and only £100 because 'there were a load of
things wrong with it' and he just wanted rid) has been with us since
2003 and has just clocked up 200,000 miles. That is another example of
something I didn't particularly want (always been a Ford man) but
couldn't refuse at the price and because it's been so good (and is
still doing ~50 mpg) I would consider getting another one should the
need arise.

I really think we (as a race) are generally living above the planets
means so this level of consumerism just can't go on (can it)? Well, I
guess it must if we want to keep enjoying good second hand stuff
cheap!

We had a couple turn up over the weekend with their new car. They got
£2K off it via the scrappage deal. It still cost them 7 grand or so
and my Mrs commented how she couldn't consider spending more than the
2K you get off for any car (let alone the 7)! But then she's happy
driving about what was my Dads, then our nieces 115,000 mile Astra
that cost us £350 (we felt generous as it was our niece) loads of
years ago. ;-)

Cheers, T i m
 
J

Jules Richardson

I did have to buy a long nut-runner because the back panel is held on
with 2 x posi and 4 x hex headed self tappers, two down the bottom of
long tubes?
No such problem with ours - but I don't like the way the rear panel hooks
underneath the machine and is secured by bolts underneath as it means
tipping the whole machine over to get inside the back; next time I have
it apart I'm going to make a an access panel for the fan so I can get to
the bits that need cleaning a little more easily.
Agreed. Whilst I like 'electronics' I don't really want any in my white
goods or motor vehicles.
Yep. Complexity for the sake of it isn't my thing. Complexity on
efficiency grounds is a bit more noble, but I often find myself
questioning whether the complexity saves money (given how hard it can
make it to fix, or how expensive parts can be).
I'm sure you are right [1]. With ours there does seem to be a faster
general build-up of internal dust but I guess that's to be expected
after so many years of doing it's thing.
I wonder about some careful filing / smoothing of ours next time I have
it apart (all the internal ducting and the fan are metal, and I don't
think the edges are very smooth so catch things easily), and maybe some
of that foam window-insulating stuff to seal the passageways a bit better
(assuming I can rule out that being a fire hazard)
When the front lip of the drum
finally wears away (I've replaced the felt 'bearing') I think that
really will be it.
Yeah, someone mentioned that on another ng recently and I think it's one
of the main things that could outright kill a dryer - that and possibly
the timer going (although as it's a stack of cam-driven switches on ours
and we don't use half the programmes, I bet I can rearrange things should
a contact burn out and spares be unobtainable :)
p.s. I can't remember the number of (especially) Dyson cleaners I've
saved from going to or salvaged from the tip that simply needed a good
clean out. How can someone chuck away something of that sorta value
(~£200) for the sake of a clean?
I hate dyson stuff. Nice when it works, but every dyson I've known gets
to that point where it needs a strip-down, clean and rebuild a couple of
times a year, and I just couldn't be bothered (not least because they're
all so plastic-fantastic and not designed for repeated rebuilding).
Current house is 90% hardwood floors, and the traditional upright vac
copes well with the other 10% :)

cheers

Jules
 
T

terry

Hi All,

Yesterday I thought it was probably the final end for our fairly old
but good Zanussi TD-534 conventionally flued tumble dryer.

I say final end because it's survived (the dump) on a couple previous
occasions, the first being the rear bearing [1], then the belt tension
pulley [2], then the belt itself.  

Since the new belt it's been making some new noises (mostly put down
to the new belt being tighter or some such) and yesterday the Mrs
tells me she heard it stop, went to empty it and noted the drum
wouldn't rotate by hand as it normally does. She also noted the
clothes weren't quite as dry as normal so turned it on again to finish
them off. It wouldn't run at all so turned it off and told me.

Today we lifted it out, took it to bits and I found the motor was
pretty well seized solid. I removed the motor, took off the blower and
plastic mounts and then, working on the 'nothing to lose' principal,
(marked then) split the motor. As suspected, one of the bearings was
very tight and again with the 'nothing to lose' approach gave it a
spray with some Teflon cycle lube (but working on the premise that I
was going to order two new 6001ZZ bearings on Monday). However, after
working the bad bearing back and forth and a bit more spray it soon
started to move freely and was soon feeling very smooth again. ;-)

Anyway, after blowing both bearings out with the compressor and
re-lubing them with some medium weight oil it's all back together and
running quieter than it has for ages, plus I now know the bearings are
cheap, plentiful and easy to change if it turns out I do need to get
some.

Oh, and it was all done with a small hex driver, a Pozi No2 and the
Leatherman PSTII. ;-)

Not rocket science or nuffink, just nice to be able to old-skool 'fix'
something now and again in this throw-away world.

Cheers, T i m

[1] The drum spigot had worked it's way through the rear bearing and
half it's mounting plate, damaging the spigot in the process. Luckily
you can buy a replacement spigot so I just drilled out the rivets and
bolted the new one on with cap headed stainless bolts and nylock nuts.

[2] The plain metal bush had collapsed on the old plastic belt tension
pulley so I bored it out in the Myford lathe and fitted two new
suitably_bored_out oil-lite bushes. New pulleys are available quite
cheap but I'd have to order it and wait for delivery. That was another
'give it a go' moment that's been fine for 6 months so far. ;-)
Well done indeed. And yes the high cost of labour these days does lead
to much of the "Chuck it away and get a new one" philosophy! So if one
can repair something oneself it is good. Not only has your fix reduced
landfill/scrap etc. it has reduced the need for the industrial
production of a new machine and the resultant pollution of that whole
process. We have only bought one 'new' clothes dryer and that was in
1960, still have it but looking for double ended motor to fix it.
Currently using a dryer that got for a dozen bottles of beer some 5
years ago. Also had returned to us a spare dryer that we had lent to a
lady with four kids; it now needs only a blower belt (About 3 quid?)
to be restored to full operation.
 
J

John

Not rocket science or nuffink, just nice to be able to old-skool 'fix'
something now and again in this throw-away world.

Cheers, T i m

Well done indeed. And yes the high cost of labour these days does lead
to much of the "Chuck it away and get a new one" philosophy! So if one
can repair something oneself it is good. Not only has your fix reduced
landfill/scrap etc. it has reduced the need for the industrial
production of a new machine and the resultant pollution of that whole
process. .



I wonder how many kids bikes get replaced when a bit of old fashioned bike
repair technology would have kept them going?


Similarly - how many good TV's are dumped so that the owner can buy a new
LCD / Plasma to watch the same programmes as before. Little "real" benefit
in most cases (however, I can't wait for my rather nice JVC CRT to pack up
so I can join in)
 
T

T i m

No such problem with ours - but I don't like the way the rear panel hooks
underneath the machine and is secured by bolts underneath as it means
tipping the whole machine over to get inside the back;
I think something else we had was like that. As you say, not ideal.
it apart I'm going to make a an access panel for the fan so I can get to
the bits that need cleaning a little more easily.
I thought of doing similar but for an oilier (thinking it was the
tension pulley squeaking). Run a fine tube out to the side somewhere
and apply some lube via a syringe.
Yep. Complexity for the sake of it isn't my thing. Complexity on
efficiency grounds is a bit more noble, but I often find myself
questioning whether the complexity saves money (given how hard it can
make it to fix, or how expensive parts can be).
Indeed, how something expensive (like a car) can be written off
because of what is often just one 2p diode or resistor (a mate repairs
car engine management computers). And it's not even a matter of just
swapping stuff out any more, relays and even car radios are now locked
to the main computer so often need costly 're-programming). A mate
recently spent £400 getting a new key for his car!
I'm sure you are right [1]. With ours there does seem to be a faster
general build-up of internal dust but I guess that's to be expected
after so many years of doing it's thing.
I wonder about some careful filing / smoothing of ours next time I have
it apart (all the internal ducting and the fan are metal, and I don't
think the edges are very smooth so catch things easily), and maybe some
of that foam window-insulating stuff to seal the passageways a bit better
(assuming I can rule out that being a fire hazard)
Ooh, a bit of gas flowing / performance tuning eh! This dryer has
left, right and rear vet outlets so the dead-end / unused ports do
tend to capture some fluff etc. But then that doesn't matter as long
as the used exit stays clear (and it generally does). It just tends to
build up a bit of a skin of fine fluff (that won't even vacuum off
easily) so I don't suppose it would do much harm.
Yeah, someone mentioned that on another ng recently and I think it's one
of the main things that could outright kill a dryer
Yeah. Mind you, with some steel strip and the pop rivet gun and some
epoxy filler to sort out any sharp edges I bet even that could be
resolved. And who actually cares what it looks like as long as it
works?
- that and possibly
the timer going (although as it's a stack of cam-driven switches on ours
and we don't use half the programmes, I bet I can rearrange things should
a contact burn out and spares be unobtainable :)
I bet you could. I think pretty well all our appliances are used on
the one setting, except the washing machine possibly.
I hate dyson stuff. Nice when it works, but every dyson I've known gets
to that point where it needs a strip-down, clean and rebuild a couple of
times a year, and I just couldn't be bothered (not least because they're
all so plastic-fantastic and not designed for repeated rebuilding).
Yeah, whilst I enjoy the side effects of their popularity (plenty of
spares etc) I'm no real fan either. Our main cleaner is a Miele Cat n
Dog as it's way quieter than any Dyson. [1]
Current house is 90% hardwood floors, and the traditional upright vac
copes well with the other 10% :)
We were thinking of replacing the old and worn carpet in the lounge
with laminate [2] but I'm still not sure I like it. It always reminds
me of (respectfully) a waiting room or the Chinese takeaway. I
thought recently I was going to have to do it as I was told I was
suffering some form of allergy ... possibly house dust mites or some
such but that seems to have gone away as weirdly as it came?

Cheers, T i m

[1] Bought with the aid of a sound level meter in the local electrical
shop. They seemed quite keen to entertain this particular 'nutter' as
well, dragging machines out from the store just to see how they
compared! ;-)

[2] I found out they do a narrow Victorian floorboard look type
laminate that I could put over these narrow Victorian floorboards!
 
J

Jules Richardson

I thought of doing similar but for an oilier (thinking it was the
tension pulley squeaking). Run a fine tube out to the side somewhere and
apply some lube via a syringe.
Interesting idea. Ours squeaks just a little bit every once in a while,
but it's not bad (or frequent) enough for me to want to trace it.
Indeed, how something expensive (like a car) can be written off because
of what is often just one 2p diode or resistor (a mate repairs car
engine management computers). And it's not even a matter of just
swapping stuff out any more, relays and even car radios are now locked
to the main computer so often need costly 're-programming). A mate
recently spent £400 getting a new key for his car!
Urgh, screw that. There's an AM radio in our ancient truck, but I'm not
sure if it even works :) Actually though, perhaps what's worse than
complexity is the lack of manufacturing service info for things. I mean,
I don't mind computers in cars as such - providing I can get full
schematics, diagnostic info, firmware dumps etc. free of charge so that I
can fix problems myself. I still prefer simple engineering, but it's
complexity hand in hand with closed, proprietary systems that really
annoys.
Ooh, a bit of gas flowing / performance tuning eh!
Ha ha! Yeah :) Actually I think it was here I posted when I was thinking
of relocating the dryer to the basement, as I was worried about
performance running through a long and potentially twisty duct. In the
end I did move it and it runs about 10' through a 90-degree bend and two
at 45 degrees, and so far with no ill-effects.
Yeah. Mind you, with some steel strip and the pop rivet gun and some
epoxy filler to sort out any sharp edges I bet even that could be
resolved. And who actually cares what it looks like as long as it works?
Heh, that's true... especially with ours in the basement, it doesn't
matter how it looks so long as it's functional.
I bet you could.
So long as it's not a big glued-together blob, anyway. Part of me thinks
I should pull the timer module on it and figure out a wiring diagram for
it *before* it breaks. Not enough hours in the day, though...
Yeah, whilst I enjoy the side effects of their popularity (plenty of
spares etc) I'm no real fan either.
Actually, the spares were part of the problem - I remember my folks had a
Dyson and a little plastic widget at the end of the hose broke; Dyson
didn't carry the widget as a spare, but instead wanted to charge me an
arm and a leg for a whole replacement hose assembly. In the end freecycle
provided what I needed - but it always bugs me when the manufacturer who
makes the parts doesn't sell them as spares, but instead tries to palm
folk off with some larger module (that grates with my frugal side, too!)
Our main cleaner is a Miele Cat n Dog as it's way quieter than any
Dyson. [1]

I really don't know if I can get Miele stuff this side of the Atlantic -
must check. I keep hearing good things about them (but then maybe they're
not *that* good, and it's just that everyone else is really bad ;-)
Current house is 90% hardwood floors, and the traditional upright vac
copes well with the other 10% :)
We were thinking of replacing the old and worn carpet in the lounge with
laminate [2] but I'm still not sure I like it. It always reminds me of
(respectfully) a waiting room or the Chinese takeaway. I thought
recently I was going to have to do it as I was told I was suffering some
form of allergy ... possibly house dust mites or some such but that
seems to have gone away as weirdly as it came?
Ours are all hardwood strips of about 3/4" deep and 1 1/2" wide (which is
quite narrow compared to most hardwood floors). A couple of the rooms
could do with sanding and refinishing in a year or two, but the guy who
lives next to us owns a hardwood flooring company, so I'm sure we can
come to some arrangement :)

It's astounding how much dust and debris collects on the stairs, though -
dust and debris which otherwise would have been trapped by carpets.

I've heard that from people with allergies, actually, that they seem to
just come and go sometimes. I suppose it's something like you inhale
something that disagrees with you, and that makes you really prone to
other airborne things until your body figures it out - until the next
time, anyway.

We've got two dogs and three cats here, but thankfully all seem allergy-
free (unlike the mother-in-law, which can be a blessing ;)
[1] Bought with the aid of a sound level meter in the local electrical
shop. They seemed quite keen to entertain this particular 'nutter' as
well, dragging machines out from the store just to see how they
compared! ;-)
I like that :) I'm almost surprised that they aren't required to publish
noise info for cleaners, actually - it's probably fairly high up on the
list of things that make a difference (although perhaps one that most
folk don't think about at purchase time)
 
J

Jules Richardson

I wonder how many kids bikes get replaced when a bit of old fashioned
bike repair technology would have kept them going?
Yep - I see bikes being thrown out all the time whenever we venture into
town. Problem is lots of things now use undocumented or over-complex
parts - or the owner doesn't have the ability or tools to fix it
themselves (understandable) but the repair shops that would once have
done it have all gone.

How to fix the problems, I don't know... society needs to be less greedy,
but then manufacturers need to make things more repairable (more thought
in the design, spares supply, published service info etc.).

I can't see the point in "low grade" recycling (separating metals from
plastics etc.) - not when we could be fixing things at a higher level so
there was much less waste in the system.
Similarly - how many good TV's are dumped so that the owner can buy a
new LCD / Plasma to watch the same programmes as before. Little "real"
benefit in most cases (however, I can't wait for my rather nice JVC CRT
to pack up so I can join in)
When it comes to computer displays, I much prefer CRTs to LCDs. LCDs just
give me a headache, no matter how much fiddling I do with the controls.
Something about the nature of the light output, maybe (LCDs always seem
either too bright or too low-contrast).

I've never owned an LCD TV, so can't really comment - but every time I
see them in the shop, they're *too* sharp, giving everything a jaggy
look, there's lots of banding between shades of the same colour, and lots
of blocky artifacts within supposedly "solid" areas. Why anyone would pay
so much to watch that, I'm not sure; high tech it might be, but that's no
use if it ends up looking worse than a CRT. I could understand it if all
I watched were movies where I could control the source somewhat, but for
watching broadcast stuff it seems a bit pointless.

cheers

Jules
 
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Gib Bogle

T said:
I only realised the Rover 218SD I bought off a mate for £100 (with 6
months TAX, 2 new tyres and only £100 because 'there were a load of
things wrong with it' and he just wanted rid) has been with us since
2003 and has just clocked up 200,000 miles.
A friend was getting rid of a motorbike ('86 Kawasaki 'Ninja' 250) that had been
sitting in his garage for a year not working, and I offered to take it off his
hands (I'm quite generous like that). I tracked the main problem down to a
rusty petrol tank, and specks of rust in the deep recesses of the carburettor,
and after fixing that and cleaning the rust out of the cooling system, assorted
fibreglass repairs, and a few other minor issues, the bike ran well. I've been
commuting on it for the past 6 years, and it has been totally reliable.
Performs better than the Norton Dominator 500 I had many moons ago. I get a
kick out of keeping something like this on the road, whereas the idea of a new
bike has very little appeal. My Dad was always fixing things - it must be genetic.
 
G

Gib Bogle

terry said:
Well done indeed. And yes the high cost of labour these days does lead
to much of the "Chuck it away and get a new one" philosophy! So if one
can repair something oneself it is good. Not only has your fix reduced
landfill/scrap etc. it has reduced the need for the industrial
production of a new machine and the resultant pollution of that whole
process.
People like us are probably anti-social though - they tell us that the modern
economy depends on everybody buying lots of stuff. If we didn't keep replacing
all our stuff, where would the jobs be? It's kind of crazy, isn't it?
 
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Appin

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p.s. I can't remember the number of (especially) Dyson cleaners I've
saved from going to or salvaged from the tip that simply needed a good
clean out. How can someone chuck away something of that sorta value
(~£200) for the sake of a clean?
£200 cost, perhaps. But not £200 value.

After 5 years (and a "free" five year warranty that really paid for
itself many times over) the only bits of our Dyson cylinder vac which
were original were the dust jug and the metal tubes. Everything else
had been replaced at least once -- including the motor and the cable
reel. Other parts up to seven times.
 

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