Nuisance phone calls - how to stop them?

A

ARWadsworth

Adrian C said:
Which I think is completely wrong :-(

Sod even the nominal cost. If the facility to withhold identity is free,
so _free_ should be the means to refuse contact until the results of
identity (or other) checks is determined.
That is brilliant logic. Why pay for other peoples deception?

Adam
 
D

Dave Liquorice

None of them have ever called me. If I need them, I call them.
So you are a hermit? No next of kin or loved ones that could end up in
A&E?
 
J

Jules

So you are a hermit? No next of kin or loved ones that could end up in
A&E?
Here I ignore it if it's not a number I recognise (let alone it just being
withheld) - I figure if it's important they'll leave a message on the
answering machine. But then I never have liked bloody phones anyway :)

cheers

Jules
 
L

Lobster

Man said:
Evidence of that "fact"?
IME it's more and more common for businesses to have an 0845 or 0870
number as their CLID number - that way they get round anonymous call
rejection; can ensure any returned 'missed' calls get answered centrally
and apppropriately; and make money out of the hapless punter who's
calling them back.

And what is it with panic-struck people who insist on phoning back
whenever they get missed calls?

Many times I've sat in an office at a business and an email comes round
from Reception saying 'whoever it was called ********, the person you
called rang you back'.

If I ring someone and they aren't available, 99 times out of 100 there's
a voicemail option; if I choose not to leave a message (because it's not
urgent, or no longer relevant if I can't talk to them there and then)
then why not just ignore it?

David
 
C

chris French

Lobster said:
IME it's more and more common for businesses to have an 0845 or 0870
number as their CLID number - that way they get round anonymous call
rejection; can ensure any returned 'missed' calls get answered
centrally and apppropriately; and make money out of the hapless punter
who's calling them back.

And what is it with panic-struck people who insist on phoning back
whenever they get missed calls?

Many times I've sat in an office at a business and an email comes round
from Reception saying 'whoever it was called ********, the person you
called rang you back'.
Which is presumably why some places do come up as number withheld - my
wife's workplace for instance, which is an NHS hospital.

I imagine the last thing switchboard wants is people ringing up saying
'someone rang me'.

Not that I would bother to block anonymous numbers, since as others have
said we very very rarely get any junk calls nowadays, since joining the
TPS.
 
A

Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)

I agree. I see a project coming on.... All I need is an old external
voice modem, a PIC chip and an SD memory card.
You forgot the "small aubergine" :)
 
A

Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)

Rob G said:
nearly all businesses withhold their number.
Not true, maybe except for scammers and junk callers that are unwanted
anyway. Even GCHQ now shows a presentation number. Anyone who witholds their
number is unwelcome in my opinion. If there should be a call from a
misguided caller, then they will get the "Sod off" message. If the call is
that important, they will find a way to defeat the withheld status.
Certainly on the rare occasions I have had a response from the Police, they
have use a non withheld line.

Calling from a withheld caller ID is the height of rudeness in my opinion.
My home number has had anonymous caller reject for many years, although I
resent the enormous cost.
 
M

Man at B&Q

Sadly many switchboards do this - so you'll likely loose some calls you
actually want.
So it's gone form "most businesses" in someone else's post to "many
switchboards". Does anyone have any hard *facts* about how many
"businesses" do not have any form of presentation number?

MBQ
 
A

Andrew Gabriel

Yes, but ex-directory has nothing to do with it - they are two different
things.

I am ex-directory for work reasons (nuisance though it is) but I
declined the option to withold my number by default.
There are (or were back when BT was a monopoly) several levels
of ex-directory. IIRC, they were...

Not in the printed directory, but available from directory enquiries.
Not in the printed directory nor available from directory enquiries,
but can be operator connected.
Not in the printed directory nor available from directory enquiries
nor operator connection.
Not even available to most BT staff.

One of these last two is called NQR "No Quoted Record".
The others all have names too such as XD, but I can't recall what
they all are now -- this was a long time ago.

You could choose one of the first 3. The last one was only available
to the likes of senior politicians, royalty, security lines, etc, and
also to a colleague back at the time who got someone in BT to mark his
line as such as a demo when they were explaining it to us. This caused
him both some amusement and some grief years later when he found it was
still marked, as there were other implications too, e.g. Faults dept
had to pass him on to a special dept to deal, as they couldn't see any
info about the line on their computers.
 
S

Stephen Gower

Adrian C said:
I recall Peter Strangman (RIP) had a setup on ISDN which took advantage of
the CLI signal coming through (a split second) before the call proper is put
through. If the number was blacklisted (perhaps even not-whitelisted) then
the computer took the line "off hook" and the caller would always get the
busy tone. I'm surprised it's taken such a long time for a commercial
product to come about, and moreso that it seems less sophisticated than what
Peter was doing 15 years ago.
 
I

Invisible Man

Dave said:
If you obtain your telephone service from BT, sales calls from them aren't
covered by the TPS, as you are already a 'valued customer'. ;-(
.... and the only LLU at the local exchange is CPW and there is no cable
in this area.
 
H

Huge

Despite numerous complaints and assurances in the past BT are once more
making marketing calls to me from 08003289393. Yet another complaint to
BT and to the TPS.
BT have to be the most appalling company in the UK to try and deal with
- unless of course the Carphone Warehouse Group are as bad as they used
to be. At least I can avoid dealing with them and have for the last 2 or
3 years.
I screamed abuse at a BT salesdroid some years ago when she woke me from
deep slumber following a long journey home from holiday (which involved a
4AM start - bloody charter flights...)

After I calmed down, she told me what to ask for so that they never called
me again. Whatever it was, it worked, because they never have (fortunately,
since it saves me the effort of chaging telcos).

I just wosh I could remember what it was.
 
J

Jules

After I calmed down, she told me what to ask for so that they never called
me again. Whatever it was, it worked, because they never have (fortunately,
since it saves me the effort of chaging telcos).
I moved countries, which worked equally well ;)
 
H

Huge

I moved countries, which worked equally well ;)
That's a tad drastic. Especially since the only country I'd likely move to
is the USA, where nuisance calls are an absolute nightmare, even with the
Federal "Do Not Call" list.
 
J

Jules

That's a tad drastic.
Heh, well I didn't do it for that reason, obviously ;-) But it's really
nice to be free of idiots such as BT and NTL (or whatever they're calling
themselves this week). Mind you, our current phone/TV/'net provider have
their silly moments* too, so maybe it just goes with the territory (their
customer service is light years ahead of any such company I came across in
the UK, though)

* such as "please call us so we can install fibre up to your house" - when
it's 20 below zero outside and the ground's going to be like concrete
for the next four months :)
Especially since the only country I'd likely move to
is the USA, where nuisance calls are an absolute nightmare, even with
the Federal "Do Not Call" list.
I've not found it's a problem, TBH. We get maybe a couple of daytime junk
calls a week, which almost never coincide with anyone being in anyway
(and they never leave a message, so other than them being on the
phone's call log there's no impact on us). Oddly enough they're nearly
always from Florida - I remember when the UK was being bombarded with
Florida junk, too (perhaps it still is?).

I think it must be one of those things which varies by area, because I'd
heard the US was supposedly the home of junk calls too, but experience
has been otherwise so far.

cheers

Jules
 
A

Adrian C

Stephen said:
I recall Peter Strangman (RIP) had a setup on ISDN which took advantage of
the CLI signal coming through (a split second) before the call proper is put
through. If the number was blacklisted (perhaps even not-whitelisted) then
the computer took the line "off hook" and the caller would always get the
busy tone. I'm surprised it's taken such a long time for a commercial
product to come about, and moreso that it seems less sophisticated than what
Peter was doing 15 years ago.
Interesting approach. Thanks, some food for thought!
 

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