Mains Multipoint

[Lou]

I am going away for a few days and wanted to know if it is ok to turn
the water off in the house but leave the pilot light going in the
multipoint. ( hot water only)
my heating is warm air and I happily leave the pilot on for that but
the water heater seems different to me.
I don't want to turn the pilot off as it can be impossible to get it to
light sometimes.
Is it ok to have a pilot burning when there is no water going through?
TIA

 

[Andrew Gabriel]

I am going away for a few days and wanted to know if it is ok to turn
the water off in the house but leave the pilot light going in the
multipoint. ( hot water only)
my heating is warm air and I happily leave the pilot on for that but
the water heater seems different to me.
I don't want to turn the pilot off as it can be impossible to get it to
light sometimes.
Is it ok to have a pilot burning when there is no water going through?

Yes, that's fine. After doing that, I leave a tap open (kitchen tap) to
release the pressure in the pipework. If the multipoint has a means to
turn off the main burner operation, do this too (my original one did,
but my current one doesn't without also turning off the pilot light).

The pilot light does consume around 250W, so if you are going away for
longer, you might want to consider the cost of the wasted gas by leaving
it on. If you turn the pilot light off in freezing weather, you must also
drain the water out of the multipoint's heat exchanger, so it can't
freeze and split it. There's usually a bleed screw on the pipework into
the multipoint which you can open after switching off the water and gas,
and will (possibly with a hot water tap open too) cause the water to drain
out of the multipoint. Make sure you have closed this and run all the air
out of the multipoint before allowing the main burner to light though.

 

[Lou]

Yes, that's fine. After doing that, I leave a tap open (kitchen tap) to
release the pressure in the pipework. If the multipoint has a means to
turn off the main burner operation, do this too (my original one did,
but my current one doesn't without also turning off the pilot light).
u suggest
The pilot light does consume around 250W, so if you are going away for
longer, you might want to consider the cost of the wasted gas by leaving
it on. If you turn the pilot light off in freezing weather, you must also
drain the water out of the multipoint's heat exchanger, so it can't
freeze and split it. There's usually a bleed screw on the pipework into
the multipoint which you can open after switching off the water and gas,
and will (possibly with a hot water tap open too) cause the water to drain
out of the multipoint. Make sure you have closed this and run all the air
out of the multipoint before allowing the main burner to light though.

Thanks for answering.
There is a "pilot only" on this one so I will leave it on that with the
tap open as you suggest. I am only away four days but recently had
plumbing done and flooded three times so I am nervous about leaving
water on. I will be able to relax when away now.
Thanks again.

 

[Woody]

I am going away for a few days and wanted to know if it is ok to
turn the water off in the house but leave the pilot light going
in the multipoint. ( hot water only)
my heating is warm air and I happily leave the pilot on for
that but the water heater seems different to me.
I don't want to turn the pilot off as it can be impossible to
get it to light sometimes.
Is it ok to have a pilot burning when there is no water going
through?
TIA

Interesting how people ask questions here rather than doing a
search - and there is loads to find.

It comes down to about 7p/day or 50p/week. Does such a small cost
warrant the effort involved in turning it off and, it has to be
said, the possibility of the thermocouple failing when it is
relit? The fact that it can be difficult to light suggests the
thermocouple may be on its way out anyway.

Leave it on.

 

[Lou]

Interesting how people ask questions here rather than doing a
search - and there is loads to find.

It comes down to about 7p/day or 50p/week. Does such a small cost
warrant the effort involved in turning it off and, it has to be
said, the possibility of the thermocouple failing when it is
relit? The fact that it can be difficult to light suggests the
thermocouple may be on its way out anyway.

Leave it on.

Thanks. It is not about cost though didn't realise it would cost 50p
which with the other warm air pilot ( which I never turn off) that is £1
a week! I could pay my usenet news subscription five times! I did
search online but couldn't find anything except American stuff that
would answer my question and that is why I love these Usenet groups,
don't let them die.
I had this silly idea that the pilot could burn out the system with no
water in which I now realise is totally false as of course my warm air
has no water in lol
I also dug out the instructions and manual - they never helped.

 

[Illuminated]

WHY THE F--K would you bother turning off the water (or anything else!!) if
just going a way for a few days, a few weeks then maybe but not just for a
few days ya retard!


"Lou" wrote in message
I am going away for a few days and wanted to know if it is ok to turn
the water off in the house but leave the pilot light going in the
multipoint. ( hot water only)
my heating is warm air and I happily leave the pilot on for that but
the water heater seems different to me.
I don't want to turn the pilot off as it can be impossible to get it to
light sometimes.
Is it ok to have a pilot burning when there is no water going through?
TIA

 

[ARW]

Interesting how people ask questions here rather than doing a
search

That is because this group is better than Google when it come to DIY.

 

[Unbeliever]

Top posting corrected.

"Lou" wrote in message
I am going away for a few days and wanted to know if it is ok to turn
the water off in the house but leave the pilot light going in the
multipoint. ( hot water only)
my heating is warm air and I happily leave the pilot on for that but
the water heater seems different to me.
I don't want to turn the pilot off as it can be impossible to get it
to light sometimes.
Is it ok to have a pilot burning when there is no water going through?
TIA

WHY THE F--K would you bother turning off the water (or anything
else!!) if just going a way for a few days, a few weeks then maybe
but not just for a few days ya retard!

"WHY THE F--K" *not* bother? It's far better to turn the utilities off than
to arrive home to find a flood or fire damaged property - especially at this
time of the year.

But I suppose that your 'illumination' is rather too dim to see that point?

 

[Unbeliever]

That is because this group is better than Google when it come to DIY.

For once, I'm in agreement with you ARW (well 90% anyway ).

 

[Illuminated]

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
Top posting corrected.

"Lou" wrote in message
I am going away for a few days and wanted to know if it is ok to turn
the water off in the house but leave the pilot light going in the
multipoint. ( hot water only)
my heating is warm air and I happily leave the pilot on for that but
the water heater seems different to me.
I don't want to turn the pilot off as it can be impossible to get it
to light sometimes.
Is it ok to have a pilot burning when there is no water going through?
TIA

WHY THE F--K would you bother turning off the water (or anything
else!!) if just going a way for a few days, a few weeks then maybe
but not just for a few days ya retard!

"WHY THE F--K" *not* bother? It's far better to turn the utilities off than
to arrive home to find a flood or fire damaged property - especially at this
time of the year.

But I suppose that your 'illumination' is rather too dim to see that point?

Unbeliever- Analyse what you have written, if you think about it properly
you will see how your justification is self defeating, you thick c--t!

 

[Unbeliever]

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
Top posting corrected.





"WHY THE F--K" *not* bother? It's far better to turn the utilities
off than to arrive home to find a flood or fire damaged property -
especially at this time of the year.

But I suppose that your 'illumination' is rather too dim to see that
point?
Unbeliever- Analyse what you have written, if you think about it
properly you will see how your justification is self defeating, you
thick c--t!

Well at least a "c--T!" is rather useful (even a thick one) - now what about
you?

Pity you're still rather dimly illuminated - particularly in the foul
language department! ROTFL

Now go and try some old fashioned sex and travel.

 

[Illuminated]

I bet you (and Lou) are the kind of muppets that turns off all their
electrical appliances at the socket before they go to bed.

But the exception of course of will be your fridge/freezer which in
technical reality is the appliance most capable of causing a serious fire!

So yes unbeliever I am a lot brighter than you, believe that.

But you are such a wit, well 50% of one anyway, NFOAD


"Unbeliever" wrote in message

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
Top posting corrected.





"WHY THE F--K" *not* bother? It's far better to turn the utilities
off than to arrive home to find a flood or fire damaged property -
especially at this time of the year.

But I suppose that your 'illumination' is rather too dim to see that
point?
Unbeliever- Analyse what you have written, if you think about it
properly you will see how your justification is self defeating, you
thick c--t!

Well at least a "c--T!" is rather useful (even a thick one) - now what about
you?

Pity you're still rather dimly illuminated - particularly in the foul
language department! ROTFL

Now go and try some old fashioned sex and travel.

 

[Unbeliever]

TOP POSTING CORRECTED YET AGAIN

"Unbeliever" wrote in message

Well at least a "c--T!" is rather useful (even a thick one) - now
what about you?

Pity you're still rather dimly illuminated - particularly in the foul
language department! ROTFL

Now go and try some old fashioned sex and travel.

I bet you (and Lou) are the kind of muppets that turns off all their
electrical appliances at the socket before they go to bed.

Nope - I'm lucky enough to have the cash not to havev to worry about the
power bills - and smoke, heat and CO detectors in all of my rooms warn
against any fires/fumes! And as a 'belt and braces jobbie) I even have the
house insured as well - just in case you know. ;-)

But the exception of course of will be your fridge/freezer which in
technical reality is the appliance most capable of causing a serious
fire!

You know what? It's strange that in all the burnt properties that I have
been contracted to repair after fire damage (over the years many BTW), not
one has been caused by a fridge/freezer - - - chip pans, defective cabling
(including a nail used to replace a blown fuse), children experimenting with
matches, one of arson - along with a few where a lighted cigarette (and even
a cigar) have been dropped in the bed/lounge furniture yes - but never the
*fridgy/freezer* thingies! [1]

So yes unbeliever I am a lot brighter than you, believe that.

Nope, you are still rather dim in my opinion!

But you are such a wit, well 50% of one anyway, NFOAD

Well at least that's 50% more of a wit than you are - and as for "NFOAD" -
I'm already a 'coffin-dodger', but I'm having too much fun winding idiots
like you up to die just yet! *eg*

Also, you really have shown how unintelligent and dim you really are when
you have to resort to such silly acronyms and foul language just to get a
simple point over.


[1] And I always made a point of reading the investigation reports
compiled by the fire brigade.

 

[Unbeliever]

From: "Lieutenant Scott" <[email protected]>

Top posting corrected

Why would anyone take a topposting scared of swearwords person
seriously?

Presuming that you're referring to me in your response to "illuminated"

I hate top-posting as it breaks the gist of the thread. As for being "scared
of swearwords" - I'm not, but there are very few times in the printed word
where they (along with the needless insults such as the one at the end of
illiminated's reply to the OP) actually contribute to a serious question and
certainly *NOT* in the context of the OP who obviously lacks the DiY
know-how.

And before the clowns reply, I topposted because he did, alternate
top and bottom posting is even worse.

That simply makes that thread harder to follow - as well as making you too
lazy to cut and paste the top-posting to the correct position in the thread.

As for me being a "clown", then that's your prerogative to think so if you
wish, but if you think that the needless swearing and insult to the OP was
necessary - then you are just as big a wally as illuminated.

There you are, we have now both put our points forward without resorting to
abusive language.

 

[Andrew Gabriel]

The ignition sequence for mine is as follows:

Thermostat calls for heat.
Valves set for water and/or heating
Water pump starts
Boiler feels water pump pressure, starts fan.
Boiler feel sair pressure, turns on pilot and spark
Boiler feels hot pilot, turns on main burner.

OP is referring to a permanent pilot light system.

 

[Mr Pounder]

I was replying to Illuminated. He topposted, and he wrote "f--k".


Then don't use them at all. But putting them in and asterisking them is
absurd.


It's fairly easy to follow it in reverse, but not if it darts up and down.


Why would I waste my time doing that? This is just a chat, not a work of
literature.


I was replying to Illuminated, I was calling him a clown.


It's not abusive, it's language. Abusive would be throwing you on a bed
and raping you, or whacking you on the head with a baseball bat. People
need to get things into perspective.

It did not take long did it Peter.

 

[Lou]

OP is referring to a permanent pilot light system.

My system is three years old and yes permanent pilot with electronic
ignition to the pilot.
I have returned home and all was well except when I put the water on the
boiler started a small drip but not sure where as it may be further up
and running down, I had this drip once before when a tap was being
mended, and it stopped after a day or so, it is about one drip per hour.
Today this stopped. Not sure what it is maybe pressure release related?
I had a lovely break and had no worries about returning to a flooded house.
Thanks everyone
retarded muppet Lou