LED downlighters

[David WE Roberts]

Electrician has suggested Halers Evoled NW
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...ds&kw=evoled&gclid=CLzt7uzmrLACFVMetAodGRPLVA

Anyone know of anything better at the same price, or as good and cheaper?

Looking at a row of 3 above the kitchen work surfaces.

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[Martin Bonner]

Electrician has suggested Halers Evoled NW
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...ds&kw=evoled&gclid=CLzt7uzmrLACFVMetAodGRPLVA

Anyone know of anything better at the same price, or as good and cheaper?

Looking at a row of 3 above the kitchen work surfaces.

We've been fitting them in the bathroom as the halogen fittings fail. I remembered them as being ~40 (I suppose 30 + VAT = 36 and there's delivery on top, so close). They have worked well for us.

Ebay is a good source.

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

We've been fitting them in the bathroom as the halogen fittings fail. I
remembered them as being ~40 (I suppose 30 + VAT = 36 and there's
delivery on top, so close). They have worked well for us.

Assuming normal bathroom use, will you ever get your money back?

 

[Adam Aglionby]

Electrician has suggested Halers Evoled NWhttp://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Energy_Saving_Index/Halers_LED...

Anyone know of anything better at the same price, or as good and cheaper?

Looking at a row of 3 above the kitchen work surfaces.

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Look like a good quality unit with real numbers, including the CRI of
80, low level illumination with a colour shift , not ideal for a
kitchen.

Cheers
Adam

 

[David WE Roberts]

Look a nice unit but do you really want to dim them?
Swapped out the 10 50watt lamps in my kitchen for 3watt warm white sealed
60led units 6mths ago and they have been great sourced from Ebay 240v
direct replacements cost £35 for the 10 but they are not dimmable.
Warning if you go down this route make sure the lamps are ce and iso rated
the first lot I bought for £20 yellowed after 2/3 weeks.
HTH
CJ

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Electrician has suggested Halers Evoled NW
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...ds&kw=evoled&gclid=CLzt7uzmrLACFVMetAodGRPLVA

Anyone know of anything better at the same price, or as good and cheaper?

Looking at a row of 3 above the kitchen work surfaces.

Yes, I do want to be able to dim them so I can have low mood lighting
spilling out into the rest of the kitchen/dining/living area.
Can't be sure that I'll want to before the whole room comes together, but
better to allow for this than be irritated by an overly light or dark
kitchen area.

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[David WE Roberts]

Electrician has suggested Halers Evoled
NWhttp://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Energy_Saving_Index/Halers_LED...

Anyone know of anything better at the same price, or as good and cheaper?

Looking at a row of 3 above the kitchen work surfaces.

*Look like a good quality unit with real numbers, including the CRI of
*80, low level illumination with a colour shift , not ideal for a
*kitchen.


Do all three colour options have the same problem?
That is daylight white, warm white and neutral white.

There will be a central pendant light in the kitchen area - these are
additional ceiling level lights over a run of work surface (no wall mounted
units) to give direct light onto the work surface to avoid shadows.

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

Yes, I do want to be able to dim them so I can have low mood lighting
spilling out into the rest of the kitchen/dining/living area.

The light qualities of LED is ideal for mood lighting. Assuming you want
to be in a bad mood.

 

[NT]

Yes, I do want to be able to dim them so I can have low mood lighting
spilling out into the rest of the kitchen/dining/living area.
Can't be sure that I'll want to before the whole room comes together, but
better to allow for this than be irritated by an overly light or dark
kitchen area.

LEDs themselves are always dimmable, but the psu used with them isn't
always. If you're wlling to open it and know what youre doing, dimming
can be achieved, and will prolong LED life.


NT

 

[Adam Aglionby]

*Look like a good quality unit with real numbers, including the CRI of
*80, low level illumination with a colour shift , not ideal for a
*kitchen.

Do all three colour options have the same problem?
That is daylight white, warm white and neutral white.

Afraid so, warm white has a boost of yellow at the expense of
efficiency, generally lose about 20% getting light quality like a 1989
CFL...

Good fluro can reach a CRI of 90+, some LED with mixed amber LEDs is
getting to 85+

Halogen has a CRI of 100....

There will be a central pendant light in the kitchen area - these are
additional ceiling level lights over a run of work surface (no wall mounted
units) to give direct light onto the work surface to avoid shadows.

Bearing in mind LED units you`ve linked to are 10W at 42l/w at 30 quid
each need to be running for most of the 24 hours in a day to make any
saving over updating halogen.

Replacing GU10 with 12V 20W halogen, which with improved beam control
will be at least as bright as exsiting 50W units, be cheaper to
install and give a more satisfactory dimmable light in a living area,
decent MR16 halogen`s are 25l/W nowadays and lamp life in the 2000hr+
range.

Cheers
Adam

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[David WE Roberts]

*Look like a good quality unit with real numbers, including the CRI of
*80, low level illumination with a colour shift , not ideal for a
*kitchen.

Do all three colour options have the same problem?
That is daylight white, warm white and neutral white.

Afraid so, warm white has a boost of yellow at the expense of
efficiency, generally lose about 20% getting light quality like a 1989
CFL...

Good fluro can reach a CRI of 90+, some LED with mixed amber LEDs is
getting to 85+

Halogen has a CRI of 100....

There will be a central pendant light in the kitchen area - these are
additional ceiling level lights over a run of work surface (no wall
mounted
units) to give direct light onto the work surface to avoid shadows.

Bearing in mind LED units you`ve linked to are 10W at 42l/w at 30 quid
each need to be running for most of the 24 hours in a day to make any
saving over updating halogen.

Replacing GU10 with 12V 20W halogen, which with improved beam control
will be at least as bright as exsiting 50W units, be cheaper to
install and give a more satisfactory dimmable light in a living area,
decent MR16 halogen`s are 25l/W nowadays and lamp life in the 2000hr+
range.

Cheers
Adam

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Thanks - very useful info.


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