L.E.D lighting for kitchen anyone?

[JethroUK©]

I've decided to scrap some 12 volt x 50 watt halogen spot lighting I have in
my kitchen

In particular a 6 light cluster (x 50 watts =300 watts) because it's too
expensive, i'm not sure it's even safe and it's still not that bright

You cant seem to buy flo-tubes any more and they're not very attractive

It seems that LED seems to be the only option - they very, very low
consumption making them cheaper and safer to run - but are they bright?

Any pointers/links

If they prove to be successful i will also replace 2 x 4 cluster spots as
well

 

[JethroUK©]

P.S. I'm assuming i can't just replace GU10 12v halogens with GU10 LED's

 

[Clive]

I've decided to scrap some 12 volt x 50 watt halogen spot lighting I have
in my kitchen

In particular a 6 light cluster (x 50 watts =300 watts) because it's too
expensive, i'm not sure it's even safe and it's still not that bright

Why wouldn't it be safe. Did you fit them yourself?

You cant seem to buy flo-tubes any more and they're not very attractive

You're lazy as B&Q and many other retailers sell fluorescent tubes.
They are prefectly usable and provide far more light than small halogens and
dim LEDs with limited coverage.

It seems that LED seems to be the only option - they very, very low
consumption making them cheaper and safer to run - but are they bright?

No, they are crap for lighting a room.

Any pointers/links

The Internet would be a start, maybe a few shops that display hundreds
of LED light fittings.

If they prove to be successful i will also replace 2 x 4 cluster spots as
well

Next you will be asking how to replace them or for a number of someone
that will do it for you.

 

[Clive]

P.S. I'm assuming i can't just replace GU10 12v halogens with GU10 LED's

Not always - no.

 

[ARWadsworth]

You know I'm not sure ... they certainly only take a small amount of juice
to light up but whether they'll work with a 12v system I don't know.
Hopefully someone else will know the answer for you.

Ash.

I have not seen a GU10 12v lamp.

GU10s are 230v rated. It matters not if they are GU10 LED or GU10 230V
lamps. GU10 lamps are rated to use 230V. This makes sure a 12V lamp is not
shoved into a 230V light fitting. They have different fittings to the 12
volt MR16 fittings.

You can buy 12V LED MR16 lamps

I can assure you that the GU 10 LEDs are a waste of space.

Adam

 

[JethroUK©]

I have not seen a GU10 12v lamp.

GU10s are 230v rated. It matters not if they are GU10 LED or GU10 230V
lamps. GU10 lamps are rated to use 230V. This makes sure a 12V lamp is not
shoved into a 230V light fitting. They have different fittings to the 12
volt MR16 fittings.

You're quite right - After taking another look, my lights are actually
240v - not sure why I had it in my head they were 12 v - it just was )

You can buy 12V LED MR16 lamps

I can assure you that the GU 10 LEDs are a waste of space.

Does that mean 12V LED MR16 lamps are better, or are you saying LED's per se
are poor?

 

[Andrew Gabriel]

Does that mean 12V LED MR16 lamps are better, or are you saying LED's per se
are poor?

LED products you find aimed at the retail market are very poor,
particularly MR16 and GU10 retrofits, as those bulb formats are
unsuitable for LED lighting at enywhere near equivalent levels
of filament lighting. To a first approximation, assume that 1W
of LED will be equivalent to 1W of filament lamp for these cheap
crap consumer products.

There are commercial LED products available which are viable,
but they are at commercial prices, and well outside retail
price ranges. You'd need a fairly good knowledge of lighting
design to use them, or to employ the services of a lighting
designer.

The other option is to design and make your own, which I've
done in one case using the professional quality LED components,
which can be bought for reasonable prices. You'll then need
to design the optics, heat management, rest of the fitting,
and the power supply.

 

[Jim.GM4DHJ ......]

LEDs do your eyes in ........

 

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[Chewbacca]

Snip

yes my mate changed his mixture of 6 off 12V 50W MR16 and 8 off 240V 50W
GU10 lights in his kitchen to LED's. (12V fitted in kitchen extension,
230V in original kitchen...very strange).
Snip

I am so glad he has put the halogens back as when I go round for a meal
I can now see what I am eating......

6 off 50W & 8 off 50W gives a total of 700W of halogen light.

I am surprised you can see anything in that much light.......

 

[cpvh]

Sorry to be late to the party as usual. I am considering six ZEP1s from Ecoled for my ten by twelve kitchen. Has anyone any experience of these or care to comment on the specs?