fence panel stain


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reg

has anyone any idea what's the staining they use on new fence panels, I put
some panels up a few months back & now the weathers got to them they've all
gone grey, not really keen on the stuff you buy from B&Q as it looks yuck !
 
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david lang

reg said:
has anyone any idea what's the staining they use on new fence panels,
I put some panels up a few months back & now the weathers got to them
they've all gone grey,
I'd guess it was 'cheap' fence stain in that case!
not really keen on the stuff you buy from B&Q
as it looks yuck !
Creosote used to be the dogs, but I think they banned it when they found
that if you immersed rats in it for 20 years they died.

Dave
 
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Andy Hall

has anyone any idea what's the staining they use on new fence panels, I put
some panels up a few months back & now the weathers got to them they've all
gone grey, not really keen on the stuff you buy from B&Q as it looks yuck !
It depends on the type and cost of the panels. The better ones are
pressure treated (Tanalised) (www.tanalised.com), while the cheaper
ones might just be dipped.

Personally, I prefer fading to grey, provided that the panels were
pressure treated so as not to deteriorate.

However, if you want to produce a stained wood that doesn't look
garish like something from a child's paintbox, it is certainly better
to avoid the water-based preparations sold by the DIY stores.

Look for solvent based exterior preservatives made by Cuprinol,
Sadolin, Sikkens, Jotun, etc. These are available in builders
merchants or from on line places.
The better ones have a wide range of colours, so you don't end up with
something that looks like painting by numbers.
 
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reg

Andy Hall said:
It depends on the type and cost of the panels. The better ones are
pressure treated (Tanalised) (www.tanalised.com), while the cheaper
ones might just be dipped.

Personally, I prefer fading to grey, provided that the panels were
pressure treated so as not to deteriorate.

However, if you want to produce a stained wood that doesn't look
garish like something from a child's paintbox, it is certainly better
to avoid the water-based preparations sold by the DIY stores.

Look for solvent based exterior preservatives made by Cuprinol,
Sadolin, Sikkens, Jotun, etc. These are available in builders
merchants or from on line places.
The better ones have a wide range of colours, so you don't end up with
something that looks like painting by numbers.
excellent many thanks for the info Andy, that's exactly what I don't want is
a fence that looks like painting by numbers, but you've given me food for
thought. thank you.
 
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Tim S

reg said:
excellent many thanks for the info Andy, that's exactly what I don't want
is a fence that looks like painting by numbers, but you've given me food
for thought. thank you.
Anyone remember what happened to Sadolin PX65? I seem to have vague
recollections of rumours of it being withdrawn due to excessive toxicity
("Sadolin poisons the world") and I haven't seen it for ages. It was damn
good stuff WRT stopping wood rotting.

Cheers

Tim
 
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Tim S

dave said:
There was also something about it leaching out and ending up in the water
table(s). Actually a neigbour of ours used to use used (!) engine oil
mixed with creososte. The fence ended up a horrible (my opinion only)
black colour and indeed, when rained upon, dark yellow droplets fell from
it and the weeds at the base um died!
Oddly enough, I have a modern book on concreting techniques, written in the
USA, which advocates spraying a mix of used sump oil and paraffin on
formwork to stop the concrete sticking. Hmm.
 
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Andy Hall

Anyone remember what happened to Sadolin PX65? I seem to have vague
recollections of rumours of it being withdrawn due to excessive toxicity
("Sadolin poisons the world") and I haven't seen it for ages. It was damn
good stuff WRT stopping wood rotting.

Cheers

Tim
There's Sadolin Superdec and Sadolin Shed and Fence Protection (not to
be confused with Sadolin Shed and Fence Prserver), but they are mimsy
water-based stuff.

Sadolin Shed and Fence Preserver is solvent based, but comes in a
limited range of colours - red, green and brown. £19 for 5 litres

Sadolin Classic is also solvent based and available in a wide range of
colours. However, it is around £20 for 2.5 litres. Having said that,
the coverage is good.

Cuprinol Garden Wood Preserver is solvent based, around £14 for 2.5l
and reasonable range of colours, not as many as Sadolin Classic

www.woodcaredirect.co.uk has data sheets and reasonable prices as far
as I can see.
 
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John

david lang said:
Creosote used to be the dogs, but I think they banned it when they found
that if you immersed rats in it for 20 years they died.
On Saturday I noticed that you can now buy "Creosote Substitute". It
comes in the same plastic 'cans' as the old stuff, the cans are the same
colour, the liquid comes in the same colours, and it smells the same.
However it costs 2 or 3 quid more.

I've still got half a can of the genuine old stuff left ... I'm hoping
my neighbours don't grass me up when I use it on my fence soon.

Hm - that reminds me -- see next entry from me!

John
 
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John

reg said:
has anyone any idea what's the staining they use on new fence panels, I put
some panels up a few months back & now the weathers got to them they've all
gone grey, not really keen on the stuff you buy from B&Q as it looks yuck !
This reminds me: a couple of weeks ago someone asked in this group about
the Cuprinol sprayers (wonderful TV ad -- big guy singing The Laughing
Policeman -- sold it to me; well not really!).

The question was: has anyone tried anything else in the Cuprinol
sprayer? There was no response at all.

Personally I'm prepared to give this a go with any water-based substance
I can find, which is cheaper than the predictably extortionately priced
Cuprinol product.

John
 

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