crack in ceiling on first floor underneath bathroom


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jonathanbowden

Hello,
I am a new homeowner, and would love any suggestions / advice / expertise
from those with more experience at this.

I have a crack in my first floor ceiling, directly underneath the
bathroom on the second floor, and running parallel with the front of the
bathtub.

the crack is not touching any walls.

it has been there since i first moved into the house almost a year ago,
but has grown in the last year. when i first moved in, the crack was
probably 3 inches long, and now it is 13 inches, and you can see where it
will grow more.

i replaced one of the original tub hardware pieces (not the main bottom
drain, but instead the middle silver piece on the front wall of the tub)
a few months ago, as i believe it was the original piece, and the rubber
gasket had rotted out. i thought that this bad piece may have allowed
water to leak through, thus affecting the drywall underneath, and then
causing a crack on the first floor ceiling. but since replacing this, the
crack has only grown more.

my only other thought is that the crack may be from settling, but the
house is 15 years old, and since the crack is directly under the upstairs
bathroom, i'm not really sure.

any help with this is much appreciated!

thanks!

jonathan bowden
 
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harry

Hello,
I am a new homeowner, and would love any suggestions / advice / expertise
from those with more experience at this.

I have a crack in my first floor ceiling,  directly underneath the
bathroom on the second floor, and running parallel with the front of the
bathtub.

the crack is not touching any walls.

it has been there since i first moved into the house almost a year ago,
but has grown in the last year. when i first moved in, the crack was
probably 3 inches long, and now it is 13 inches, and you can see where it
will grow more.

i replaced one of the original tub hardware pieces (not the main bottom
drain, but instead the middle silver piece on the front wall of the tub)
a few months ago, as i believe it was the original piece, and the rubber
gasket had rotted out. i thought that this bad piece may have allowed
water to leak through, thus affecting the drywall underneath, and then
causing a crack on the first floor ceiling. but since replacing this, the
crack has only grown more.

my only other thought is that the crack may be from settling, but the
house is 15 years old, and since the crack is directly under the upstairs
bathroom, i'm not really sure.

any help with this is much appreciated!

thanks!

jonathan bowden
Assuming there are no structural defects, the likely cause of cracks
appearing in wallboard/cielings is that no reinforcing scrim was
applied over the joint prior to plastering. Cracks often appear if
this is omitted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrim_(material)#Reinforcement_material
 
M

Molly Brown

Hello,
I am a new homeowner, and would love any suggestions / advice / expertise
from those with more experience at this.

I have a crack in my first floor ceiling,  directly underneath the
bathroom on the second floor, and running parallel with the front of the
bathtub.

the crack is not touching any walls.

it has been there since i first moved into the house almost a year ago,
but has grown in the last year. when i first moved in, the crack was
probably 3 inches long, and now it is 13 inches, and you can see where it
will grow more.

i replaced one of the original tub hardware pieces (not the main bottom
drain, but instead the middle silver piece on the front wall of the tub)
a few months ago, as i believe it was the original piece, and the rubber
gasket had rotted out. i thought that this bad piece may have allowed
water to leak through, thus affecting the drywall underneath, and then
causing a crack on the first floor ceiling. but since replacing this, the
crack has only grown more.

my only other thought is that the crack may be from settling, but the
house is 15 years old, and since the crack is directly under the upstairs
bathroom, i'm not really sure.

any help with this is much appreciated!

thanks!

jonathan bowden
Any plumber who has a modicum of decency should have put a plumbing
access door or panel behind your tub where you can see the drain lines
with a flashlight and maybe an inspection mirror. Do you have such a
door that you can use to check and if not I would highly recommend
putting one in? It's very easy to do so.
 
O

Oren

take down cieling to inspect whats going on.....
Take down the ceiling for a 13 inch "crack"? Shame on you...
plumbers often cut beams to install sewer lines, water leaks can cause
rot.

your far better off to take down cieling find and fix whatever is
going on.
It might just be a poor tape job at the seam.
than wait till something gets worse....
Take down the entire ceiling could get worse!
sorry theres no other choice
Sure there is. "The path of least destruction".
 
H

hallerb

Take down the ceiling for a 13 inch "crack"? Shame on you...



It might just be a poor tape job at the seam.




Take down the entire ceiling could get worse!




Sure there is. "The path of least destruction".- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
drywall is pretty easy to work with.

I used to try and avoid pulling down cielings when someting wierd is
seen, but near every time it gets worse and i find something in there
that needs attended too.

like rotted drain lines, electrical work box with no access, and romex
laying against a hunk of galavinzed drain pipe, if you have never been
in that area before its worth a look......
 
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Stormin Mormon

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message Hello,
I am a new homeowner, and would love any suggestions / advice /
expertise
from those with more experience at this.

I have a crack in my first floor ceiling, directly underneath the
bathroom on the second floor, and running parallel with the front of
the
bathtub.

the crack is not touching any walls.

it has been there since i first moved into the house almost a year
ago,
but has grown in the last year. when i first moved in, the crack was
probably 3 inches long, and now it is 13 inches, and you can see where
it
will grow more.

i replaced one of the original tub hardware pieces (not the main
bottom
drain, but instead the middle silver piece on the front wall of the
tub)
a few months ago, as i believe it was the original piece, and the
rubber
gasket had rotted out. i thought that this bad piece may have allowed
water to leak through, thus affecting the drywall underneath, and then
causing a crack on the first floor ceiling. but since replacing this,
the
crack has only grown more.

my only other thought is that the crack may be from settling, but the
house is 15 years old, and since the crack is directly under the
upstairs
bathroom, i'm not really sure.

any help with this is much appreciated!

thanks!

jonathan bowden
 
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Mike Paulsen

jonathanbowden said:
Hello,
I am a new homeowner, and would love any suggestions / advice / expertise
from those with more experience at this.

I have a crack in my first floor ceiling, directly underneath the
bathroom on the second floor, and running parallel with the front of the
bathtub.

the crack is not touching any walls.

it has been there since i first moved into the house almost a year ago,
but has grown in the last year. when i first moved in, the crack was
probably 3 inches long, and now it is 13 inches, and you can see where it
will grow more.

i replaced one of the original tub hardware pieces (not the main bottom
drain, but instead the middle silver piece on the front wall of the tub)
a few months ago, as i believe it was the original piece, and the rubber
gasket had rotted out. i thought that this bad piece may have allowed
water to leak through, thus affecting the drywall underneath, and then
causing a crack on the first floor ceiling. but since replacing this, the
crack has only grown more.

my only other thought is that the crack may be from settling, but the
house is 15 years old, and since the crack is directly under the upstairs
bathroom, i'm not really sure.

any help with this is much appreciated!
Check the ceiling with a 4' straightedge. What do you see?

Push up hard on the ceiling around the crack. Does the drywall appear to
be tight to the joist?

Is there any bounce to the bathroom floor? If tiled, any cracks? Is the
floor level?

Does the crack change at all when you fill the tub?

Is this a standard tub, or a soaker or whirlpool tub which holds
considerably more water?

Can you put photos on flickr or photobucket?
 

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