Concrete Repair and Tile Repair

[Dottie]

1. The concrete deck around the pool has settled and caused fine
cracks in the deck. I read about repairing them with something like a
caulking gun only it holds cement ... have Googled for it on Home
Depot site and can't find it. Does anyone know what the name is so I
will know what to ask for.

2. The tile (bullnose) has cracked and started coming apart in two
places. The pool was installed 17 years ago and the tile I have been
able to find doesn't match in style .... my tile has a more rounded
edge. I don't want to have to replace the whole thing for just those
two tiles ... is there someplace I might find old style bullnose
tile? The color I need is bone and I did find almost exact shade at
Lowe's ... it was same size (3x6) but not as thick. And it was less
curved at the top ... just wondering if there is anything I can do to
avoid tearing out all the tile. Several other pieces are cracked but
not showing like these two pieces with large cracks. I am thinking
about trying to patch them....if anyone knows how.

 

[Tony]

1. The concrete deck around the pool has settled and caused fine
cracks in the deck. I read about repairing them with something like a
caulking gun only it holds cement ... have Googled for it on Home
Depot site and can't find it. Does anyone know what the name is so I
will know what to ask for.

2. The tile (bullnose) has cracked and started coming apart in two
places. The pool was installed 17 years ago and the tile I have been
able to find doesn't match in style .... my tile has a more rounded
edge. I don't want to have to replace the whole thing for just those
two tiles ... is there someplace I might find old style bullnose
tile? The color I need is bone and I did find almost exact shade at
Lowe's ... it was same size (3x6) but not as thick. And it was less
curved at the top ... just wondering if there is anything I can do to
avoid tearing out all the tile. Several other pieces are cracked but
not showing like these two pieces with large cracks. I am thinking
about trying to patch them....if anyone knows how.

Do you have a tile you can take to get paint mixed the same color?
Patch then paint?

 

[Dottie]

Do you have a tile you can take to get paint mixed the same color?
Patch then paint?

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Finding the right color is not the problem. The shape of the tile is
different from what is being sold today. I think I am going to try
and patch it with the piece that fell off ....if I can get it to
adhere to the side. I'm leaning toward using epoxy to glue the broken
piece back on. Then fill the rest of the space with cement. Not sure
it will work.

 

[Tony]

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Finding the right color is not the problem. The shape of the tile is
different from what is being sold today. I think I am going to try
and patch it with the piece that fell off ....if I can get it to
adhere to the side. I'm leaning toward using epoxy to glue the broken
piece back on. Then fill the rest of the space with cement. Not sure
it will work.

That is sort of what I meant. Do the patch with whatever is hopefully
going to hold the best, then hide the patch with matching paint.

 

[DD_BobK]

1. The concrete deck around the pool has settled and caused fine
cracks in the deck.  I read about repairing them with something like a
caulking gun only it holds cement ... have Googled for it  on Home
Depot site and can't find it.  Does anyone know what the name is so I
will know what to ask for.

2.  The tile (bullnose) has cracked and started coming apart in two
places. The pool was installed 17 years ago and the tile I have been
able to find doesn't match in style .... my tile has a more rounded
edge.  I don't want to have to replace the whole thing for just those
two tiles ... is there someplace I might find old style bullnose
tile?  The color I need is bone and I did find almost exact shade at
Lowe's ... it was same size (3x6) but not as thick.  And it was less
curved at the top ... just wondering if there is anything I can do to
avoid tearing out all the tile.  Several other pieces are cracked but
not showing like these two pieces with large cracks.   I am thinking
about trying to patch them....if anyone knows how.

Dear Dottie-

I will only comment on the repair of the concrete cracks.
What you choose to do about the cracks depends on the size of the
cracks & whether the decking is still moving.

I was involved in rehab of a pool deck and the gap between the decking
and the pool coping.

The gap between the deck & the coping (as much as 3/4" in some places)
was filled with an elastomeric compound similar to Sikaflex Self-
leveling Sealant. I've used Sikaflex Self-leveling Sealant with
good success. The spec sheet recommends a max depth of 1/2" and
width of 1/2" but I've exceeded both dimensions (as deep as 3/4" and
as wide as 3/4") with no ill effects. I did some trial applications
on a large / deep crack with "no sound bottom". The sealant kept
leaking out & I kept filling.. eventually the crack filled and the
material cured, fast forward 5 years and the material is still sound &
looks great. The cracks are stilled sealed & the material still
adhered.

The sealant winds up matching normal grey concrete quite well after
it "gets dirty" and collects the dirt and dust from the concrete
surface over several weeks.

The only drawback is that the wet sealant "runs" if the concrete
surface slope is too great and the wet sealant "disappears" if the
crack bottom is not sealed and has escape routes for the sealant.

Back on the rehab job, against my suggestion a more or less rigid
epoxy compound was used to seal the deck cracks.....the color match
was not great but worse (over time) the epoxy debonded from the
concrete, the cracks re-opened slightly with continued deck movement.
All in all the epoxy repair of the cracks was less than ideal. Bad
color match and cracks returned....so oyu now have spidery repair re-
cracked cracks. Honestly the repaired concrete after a couple years
looked no better and perhaps worse than no repair.

I recommend a elastomeric material.

cheers
Bob

 

[EXT]

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Finding the right color is not the problem. The shape of the tile is
different from what is being sold today. I think I am going to try
and patch it with the piece that fell off ....if I can get it to
adhere to the side. I'm leaning toward using epoxy to glue the broken
piece back on. Then fill the rest of the space with cement. Not sure
it will work.

Tile colors, shapes and styles come and go like women's fashion. What is in
style and available this year may not be available next year, or the
manufacturer may not be in business. Matching 17 year old tile is probably a
lost cause, this is why anyone that does tiling or has tiling done should
keep a box of every type of tile that is used as spares for repairs. Most
contractors don't leave extras, and most uneducated homeowners don't want to
store the tiles, just-in-case. But spare tiles have helped me out several
tiles as repairs or modifications were needed requiring the tiles to be
patched.

 

[virginiaharms]

1. The concrete deck around the pool has settled and caused fine
cracks in the deck. I read about repairing them with something like a
caulking gun only it holds cement ... have Googled for it on Home
Depot site and can't find it. Does anyone know what the name is so I
will know what to ask for.

2. The tile (bullnose) has cracked and started coming apart in two
places. The pool was installed 17 years ago and the tile I have been
able to find doesn't match in style .... my tile has a more rounded
edge. I don't want to have to replace the whole thing for just those
two tiles ... is there someplace I might find old style bullnose
tile? The color I need is bone and I did find almost exact shade at
Lowe's ... it was same size (3x6) but not as thick. And it was less
curved at the top ... just wondering if there is anything I can do to
avoid tearing out all the tile. Several other pieces are cracked but
not showing like these two pieces with large cracks in concrete repair Salt Lake City. I am thinking
about trying to patch them....if anyone knows how.

I have a two piece bird bath that belonged to my Grandma. It is well over 50yrs old and has developed a crack in the bowl.

The bowl is approximately 80-100lbs and about 1-2in thick, the crack started on one side and now goes across. On one side the crack is all the way through and the bird bath is leaking all of it's water in one-two days.

I stood at Home Depot and got cross-eyed trying to figure out which stuff to use. Some of the "fixes" require making the crack larger(I don't want the bowl to break). I found one that you could use on swimming pools but then you need to seal it. The sealant comes in one gallon quantities!

I also do not want to use anything that will harm the birds.

Any ideas of what to use?