Any way to fix leaky ABS drain without ripping apart wall? (also, class action suit)

Discussion in 'Misc DIY' started by Dolchas, Aug 10, 2003.

  1. Dolchas

    Dolchas Guest

    Greetings all!

    About 6 years ago, my wife and I bought the shell of a an unusual
    house. Construction started around 1979, and then after a few years
    of on-again-off-again building, the house was allowed to dilapidate
    for about 15 years. After purchasing the house, we completed the
    construction job with the help of a resourceful contractor. All the
    interior plumbing, drywall, electrics, etc. was done around 1997.

    Here is the problem: The pipe from the first floor bathroom sink
    basin leaks. We know this because, fortunately, the basement ceiling
    is not yet finished, and we can look right up at where the black ABS
    pipe comes down from the first floor and we see the water dripping
    down the pipe. Behind the bathroom sink, the pipe goes horizontally
    into the wall, then must turn down 90 degrees and then presumably does
    not turn again until we can see it above us when standing in the
    basement. When in the basement, we see the water leaking down the
    pipe, but since the pipe disappears into the framing above, we can't
    see the source. Therefore, I am guessing the only reasonable source
    of the leak is in the wall where the pipe makes its 90 degree turn
    downward. Does this sound reasonable so far?

    What approach do I take to repair this pipe? Fortunately, there is a
    bedroom dresser on the opposite side of where the sink pipe goes into
    the wall, so I guess I can cut into the drywall and locate the faulty
    join. How do I fix it when I find it? Some kind of miracle epoxy, or
    do I have to cut and replace the pipes?

    Also, although it is probably too much to hope for, is there any
    miracle product I can run through the pipes to seal the leak without
    me having to cut into the wall?

    Also, one wonders why ABS pipe would leak so soon after installation.
    Perhaps faulty workmanship is to blame, but then I found out about
    this class action suit pertaining to defective ABS pipes:

    http://www.abspipes.com/id.html

    I don't know yet if my pipes qualify, but I intend to find out. Does
    anyone have any further information or experience with this class
    action suit?

    Thanks in advance!

    Chuck
     
    Dolchas, Aug 10, 2003
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    mark Ransley Guest

    Re: Any way to fix leaky ABS drain without ripping apart wall? (also,class action suit)

    it will take a good proctoroligist or my gay son can help you.
     
    mark Ransley, Aug 10, 2003
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  3. Dolchas

    JNJ Guest

    > Here is the problem: The pipe from the first floor bathroom sink
    > basin leaks. We know this because, fortunately, the basement ceiling
    > is not yet finished, and we can look right up at where the black ABS
    > pipe comes down from the first floor and we see the water dripping
    > down the pipe. Behind the bathroom sink, the pipe goes horizontally
    > into the wall, then must turn down 90 degrees and then presumably does
    > not turn again until we can see it above us when standing in the
    > basement. When in the basement, we see the water leaking down the
    > pipe, but since the pipe disappears into the framing above, we can't
    > see the source. Therefore, I am guessing the only reasonable source
    > of the leak is in the wall where the pipe makes its 90 degree turn
    > downward. Does this sound reasonable so far?


    Sounds like a leaky joint between pieces of pipe. This could be at any
    point above where the water is dripping of course.

    The first thing I'd do is check the drain to make sure it's not the origin
    point of the leak. Then I'd go ahead open up the wall behind the sink where
    the elbow joint is located and give that a look. At that point of course
    you can also check the pipe itself for any issues.

    If it's the elbow that's bad, it may be as simple as the piece was fitted
    but never glued into place. Be that case, just finish the job. If any of
    the pipe is bad then you'll just have to cut it out and replace it. The
    nice thing about these pipes is how easy it is to do the work -- they just
    glue right together, takes but a moment.

    Repairing the drywall shouldn't be that difficult afterwards either -- you
    may find studs are right handy and you can just cut back to the studs then
    replace the piece you took out. For example, when we rebuilt the wall
    between the bathroom and bedroom, it just so happened that the last bit of
    area to cover was only a couple of feet wide so it got a partial cut that
    covered the plumbing to the tub. If I had to get to the plumbing, I'd cut
    the tape, cut an area large enough to work in, then afterward just cut a
    piece to fit back in and re-finish. If you're not that fortunate, you can
    also use some 1 by braces to hold another sheet of drywall in place then
    mount and finish.

    James
     
    JNJ, Aug 11, 2003
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    Woodsy

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    Also, water lines are always near drain lines so to rule out water lines, you can identify if the leaks slows down or stops when the sink is not being used. Water lines under constant pressure leak constantly. I have also encountered a small leak from a toilet tank that was running directly behind the base wall trim and chaneling along the tile to run down below along the sink drain Line so keep an eye peeled like James said
     
    Woodsy, Oct 12, 2017
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