Any IP or ethernet-capable HVAC thermostats with their own internalweb-server?


H

HVAC Guy

I've looked up the IP/Ethernet thermostats available from four different
vendors, and their products don't seem to allow for direct web-based
access to the thermostats by the end-user. The way they do it is that
the thermostat communicates directly with a server operated by the
manufacturer, and the end user accesses their own thermostat via web
interface hosted by the manufacturer.

Does any thermostat manufacturer offer an IP-thermostat that contains
it's own web-server that's directly accessible by the end user to
program the unit and allow for direct monitoring, view temperature and
performance logs, allow for e-mail alerts, etc? These are all trivial
functions that you'll find on any $100 IP-based webcam.
 
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RickH

I've looked up the IP/Ethernet thermostats available from four different
vendors, and their products don't seem to allow for direct web-based
access to the thermostats by the end-user.  The way they do it is that
the thermostat communicates directly with a server operated by the
manufacturer, and the end user accesses their own thermostat via web
interface hosted by the manufacturer.

Does any thermostat manufacturer offer an IP-thermostat that contains
it's own web-server that's directly accessible by the end user to
program the unit and allow for direct monitoring, view temperature and
performance logs, allow for e-mail alerts, etc?  These are all trivial
functions that you'll find on any $100 IP-based webcam.
Yes:

http://www.smarthome.com/30532/IP-Thermostat-with-Remote-Sensor-Capability-2-Port-Power-Adapter/p.aspx

http://www.smarthome.com/3054/Programmable-Thermostat/p.aspx

It does everything you listed including the email alerts and a mini
web server built in.

Here is a screen print of the thermostats remote-control web page:

http://www.smarthome.com/images/3053side1big.gif

It has a power adapter block that you punch down the tehermostat to,
then you just run CAT5 from the power adapter to your home's network
hub (or switch).

If you've already secured your home LAN for external access half the
job is done.

I'm using similar IP devices on my network switch (cameras and
lighting control) both of these also have their own web servers for
remote access.

ISP's also generate DNS names for your home these days so you dont
even need a fixed IP address from your ISP, you can get to your home
by DNS name.

HTH
 
H

HVAC Guy

RickH said:
Yes, it seems that the Proliphix thermostat does have a useful internal
web server.

Too bad that it's over $300. Quite a rip-off (2 to 3 x the price)
compared to a significantly more complicated device like an IP-webcam.

What I'm looking for is, perhaps, not so much an internet-accessible
thermostat as much as an internet-accessible information "hub" that can
record and log stuff like temperature and furnace operation
(heat-on/heat-off), door opening and closings (by picking off the
contacts from existing alarm system), and make that info available
remotely, set e-mail alerts based on specific conditions, etc. More
along the lines of remote property monitor (but not from the POV of
being a security system).
ISP's also generate DNS names for your home these days
What ISP's do DNS hosting for dynamically-assigned IP addresses? And
what does it cost? And will they do it for a residential vs business
broadband connection?
 
R

RickH

Yes, it seems that the Proliphix thermostat does have a useful internal
web server.

Too bad that it's over $300.  Quite a rip-off (2 to 3 x the price)
compared to a significantly more complicated device like an IP-webcam.  

What I'm looking for is, perhaps, not so much an internet-accessible
thermostat as much as an internet-accessible information "hub" that can
record and log stuff like temperature and furnace operation
(heat-on/heat-off), door opening and closings (by picking off the
contacts from existing alarm system), and make that info available
remotely, set e-mail alerts based on specific conditions, etc.  More
along the lines of remote property monitor (but not from the POV of
being a security system).


What ISP's do DNS hosting for dynamically-assigned IP addresses?  And
what does it cost?  And will they do it for a residential vs business
broadband connection?

I have Comcast Business Class, not sure about residential.

I get about 20 Mb/s download and 3 Mb/s upload in my area with
Comcast, have not found anyone faster here. I guess until someone
wants to run fiber to my door, the phone companies around here wont do
that.
 
R

RickH

Yes, it seems that the Proliphix thermostat does have a useful internal
web server.

Too bad that it's over $300.  Quite a rip-off (2 to 3 x the price)
compared to a significantly more complicated device like an IP-webcam.  

What I'm looking for is, perhaps, not so much an internet-accessible
thermostat as much as an internet-accessible information "hub" that can
record and log stuff like temperature and furnace operation
(heat-on/heat-off), door opening and closings (by picking off the
contacts from existing alarm system), and make that info available
remotely, set e-mail alerts based on specific conditions, etc.  More
along the lines of remote property monitor (but not from the POV of
being a security system).


What ISP's do DNS hosting for dynamically-assigned IP addresses?  And
what does it cost?  And will they do it for a residential vs business
broadband connection?

For data collection you could write a little program to wake up every
10 minutes and go "browse" the thermostat web page and log a copy of
it, inspect it for changes, etc.
 
S

Steve

Yes, it seems that the Proliphix thermostat does have a useful internal
web server.

Too bad that it's over $300. Quite a rip-off (2 to 3 x the price)
compared to a significantly more complicated device like an IP-webcam.

What I'm looking for is, perhaps, not so much an internet-accessible
thermostat as much as an internet-accessible information "hub" that can
record and log stuff like temperature and furnace operation
(heat-on/heat-off), door opening and closings (by picking off the
contacts from existing alarm system), and make that info available
remotely, set e-mail alerts based on specific conditions, etc. More
along the lines of remote property monitor (but not from the POV of
being a security system).


What ISP's do DNS hosting for dynamically-assigned IP addresses? And
what does it cost? And will they do it for a residential vs business
broadband connection?

I have Comcast Business Class, not sure about residential.

I get about 20 Mb/s download and 3 Mb/s upload in my area with
Comcast, have not found anyone faster here. I guess until someone
wants to run fiber to my door, the phone companies around here wont do
that.
 
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Sam Boutros

Yes, it seems that the Proliphix thermostat does have a useful internal
web server.

Too bad that it's over $300.  Quite a rip-off (2 to 3 x the price)
compared to a significantly more complicated device like an IP-webcam.  

What I'm looking for is, perhaps, not so much an internet-accessible
thermostat as much as an internet-accessible information "hub" that can
record and log stuff like temperature and furnace operation
(heat-on/heat-off), door opening and closings (by picking off the
contacts from existing alarm system), and make that info available
remotely, set e-mail alerts based on specific conditions, etc.  More
along the lines of remote property monitor (but not from the POV of
being a security system).
Have you checked out http://www.inthrma.com/
we do most of what you're looking for.

Sam
 
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I have been using a Proliphix commercial thermostat for a few years and it has been great (very reliable). They now offer some WIFI models .

There are some lower priced WIFI IP thermostats made by Radio Thermostat Corporation of America (RCoA) that supposedly has its own internal web sever (to be documented soon according some posts in their forum ) .


Use you favorite search engine for the following terms -

Forums Radio thermostat

Filtrete 3M50

RCoA
 
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Net/X Control

HVAC said:
I've looked up the IP/Ethernet thermostats available from four different
vendors, and their products don't seem to allow for direct web-based
access to the thermostats by the end-user. The way they do it is that
the thermostat communicates directly with a server operated by the
manufacturer, and the end user accesses their own thermostat via web
interface hosted by the manufacturer.
Does any thermostat manufacturer offer an IP-thermostat that contains
it's own web-server that's directly accessible by the end user to
program the unit and allow for direct monitoring, view temperature and
performance logs, allow for e-mail alerts, etc? These are all trivial
functions that you'll find on any $100 IP-based webcam.

Hi HVAC

Take a look at the Network Thermostat product offerings. Integrated
web-browser (no cloud, no fees), integrated Weatherbug
(eliminates remote outdoor sensor for the heat pump compressor and auxiliary
heat lockouts), up to 4 email and text message
destinations for alerts or reminders, and rolling monthly data logs (new data
log created for each month). All of these features
and more are available in ethernet or WiFi thermostat offerings. Go to
www.networkthermostat.com for more information.
 
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Net/X Control

dont said:
Umm, Honeywell has a new line that offers this capability,
http://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-THM6000R1002-Enabled-Internet-Gateway/dp/B006BD1K4A
or if you want more of a consumer product
http://www.nest.com/living-with-nest/

I do not think Honeywell and The Nest meet the requirement of the original
post. The Honeywell and the Nest products are simply
gateways to the web where the thermostat settings are stored in a cloud - they
do not have the embedded browser like the
NetworkThermostat products. The problem with the cloud based thermostats is
that you need to rely on some other server - and if it
goes down, you are left without acces to the HVAC controls. With a
NetworkThermostat WiFi or IP thermostat, the web browser is
embedded in the thermostat or gateway directly. Complete internet access to
HVAC Controls with No Cloud and No Fees. Furthermore,
using the FREE Net/X Command Center Software you can even view/monitor your
security cameras (or any web enabled device) and
monitor your thermostats all from the same application on a single web page.
Have a look here:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/2/prweb10479439.htm
 
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