Advice on Gas "plumbing"


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Pete

Could anyone comment on this predicament I find myself in... I'll keep it
brief.

Basically, there was a small gas leak in the street - the pipe had ruptured,
not sure exactly where as wasn't in at the time to ask questions.
Anyway Transco keep out and have repaired it. They have also
replaced the meter which was at the back of the house by an external one at
the front.
To connect the meter they have run a copper pipe from the meter, up the front
of the building, into the roof space across the loft, and down back into
the house.

Any comments on having an external copper gas pipe .... apart from it's an
incredible eyesore? Is just doesn't seem a safe option to me.

Any help appreciated.

Pete
 
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Mike Taylor

As for the safety of the external copper pipe that is no problem and
standard practise. Only you can comment on the visual effect and it may be
possible to get the gas supplier to re route it
Contact them and arrange a meeting but that can only be on the visual side
not on the safety part
 
M

Martin

<snip>
When BG installed my new combi they ran the gas feed outside, even thought I
asked then not to! I'm intending to clad it with plastic trunking when I get
the time. It's not only an eye-soar, as it runs along the side of the house
before it's rise to the heavens, there's a very real risk of a ding from the
wheel-barrow, or the back gate, or the local kids.....

BG Rant, Rant, Rant.......
 
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Ed Sirett

Pete said:
Could anyone comment on this predicament I find myself in... I'll keep it
brief.

Basically, there was a small gas leak in the street - the pipe had ruptured,
not sure exactly where as wasn't in at the time to ask questions.
Anyway Transco keep out and have repaired it. They have also
replaced the meter which was at the back of the house by an external one at
the front.
To connect the meter they have run a copper pipe from the meter, up the front
of the building, into the roof space across the loft, and down back into
the house.

Any comments on having an external copper gas pipe .... apart from it's an
incredible eyesore? Is just doesn't seem a safe option to me.

Any help appreciated.

Because Transco choose to move the meter (probably due renewing the
service main - to fix the leak) they were obligated to modify your gas
installation at their expense. There is no problem with running gas
pipes externally or through roof spaces.

I am surprised they took such a long route as this may have impact on
the pressure drops within the installation pipework. (See FAQ below).

If you had wanted them to move the gas meter to the front (to enable
reading without visits) you would not only have had to pay a substantial
sum (likely hundreds) to Transco you would also have had to arrange
for the internal pipework modifications yourself.

Depending on the layout and construction of your home rerouting the
internal pipework to use the new meter may or may not be big job.
Transco may have chosen to take along but simple route to avoid
disruption to your house (lifting floors, carpets, laminates, fitted
kitchens...)

If you post details of the existing gas pipe runs the namture of the
beast may become clear.

Whilst you may not have wanted the meter at the front you now have it
there.

Pipe may be camoflaged with paint.
 
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IMM

Martin said:
<snip>
When BG installed my new combi they ran the gas feed outside, even thought I
asked then not to! I'm intending to clad it with plastic trunking when I get
the time. It's not only an eye-soar, as it runs along the side of the house
before it's rise to the heavens, there's a very real risk of a ding from the
wheel-barrow, or the back gate, or the local kids.....

BG Rant, Rant, Rant.......
 
I

IMM

Pete said:
Could anyone comment on this predicament I find myself in... I'll keep it
brief.

Basically, there was a small gas leak in the street - the pipe had ruptured,
not sure exactly where as wasn't in at the time to ask questions.
Anyway Transco keep out and have repaired it. They have also
replaced the meter which was at the back of the house by an external one at
the front.
To connect the meter they have run a copper pipe from the meter, up the front
of the building, into the roof space across the loft, and down back into
the house.

Any comments on having an external copper gas pipe .... apart from it's an
incredible eyesore? Is just doesn't seem a safe option to me.
If it's an eyesore tell them to rip it out and conceal it.
 
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IMM

Martin said:
<snip>
When BG installed my new combi they ran the gas feed outside, even thought I
asked then not to! I'm intending to clad it with plastic trunking when I get
the time. It's not only an eye-soar, as it runs along the side of the house
before it's rise to the heavens, there's a very real risk of a ding from the
wheel-barrow, or the back gate, or the local kids.....

BG Rant, Rant, Rant.......
Get them back to rip it out and conceal it. Make it clear you told them NOT
to have it outside.
 
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BillR

Pete said:
The details of the property are this.

It's a terraced type house where we only have the upper part i.e.
someone lives downstairs. [SNIP].

I would imagine re-routing the internal pipework would be a bit of a
pain as it would involve lifting floorboard etc.
Thats probably why they did it like they. How could they rip up someone else
flooring to lay your gas pipe?
The downstairs may have laminate floors etc which would make this
impossible.
Even if the floor is yours getting up enough boards could have been tedious
and damage skirting etc
 
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Ed Sirett

BillR said:
The details of the property are this.

It's a terraced type house where we only have the upper part i.e.
someone lives downstairs. [SNIP].

I would imagine re-routing the internal pipework would be a bit of a
pain as it would involve lifting floorboard etc.
Thats probably why they did it like they. How could they rip up someone else
flooring to lay your gas pipe?
The downstairs may have laminate floors etc which would make this
impossible.
Even if the floor is yours getting up enough boards could have been tedious
and damage skirting etc
Without further details of where the pipes are within the flat it is
hard to say how easy it would be to reroute the pipe.

Almost certainly any good route would go up outside and in under the
floor of the flat.
Or perhaps inside into a common entrance way and then up into the floor
void again.

If the boiler is at the back and near the old meter and there is little
other pipework then I'd be tempted to argue Tranco's approach was
reasonable.
 
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Pete

Without further details of where the pipes are within the flat it is
hard to say how easy it would be to reroute the pipe.
I'm not sure my 3D ASCII art is up to a diagram :)
Almost certainly any good route would go up outside and in under the
floor of the flat.
Or perhaps inside into a common entrance way and then up into the floor
void again.

If the boiler is at the back and near the old meter and there is little
other pipework then I'd be tempted to argue Tranco's approach was
reasonable.
Fair enough. Both the meter and the biler are at the rear, the meter
being close to wear the inlet pipe emerges into my property, and the boiler
being the other side of the same room.
It sounds like hiding it is the best bet.
I'll try and persuade Transco to do it.
Anyone know of any hardy climbing plants? :)

To (sort of) answer BillR's post saying:
Thats probably why they did it like they. How could they rip up someone else
flooring to lay your gas pipe?
They are replacing both sets of pipes to the upper and lower porperty.
AIUI, the properties shared the same routing of the original pipework.
Transco have ripped up the floors for their pipes anyway.
One last thing to note is that our external pipework is attached to
my downstairs neighbours wall, so it actually effects them also.

Thanks for the help guys.

Pete
 

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