"Wonder putty" for window repair: epoxy?

Discussion in 'Home Repair' started by David Nebenzahl, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. Don't mind that name--that's just what I'm calling the stuff. The stuff
    being what a guy would want to use to fix a rotted window frame.

    I've seen this stuff, both on the tube and in the flesh: a putty that
    dries hard and white, and is perfect for the repair I need to do. I have
    a window sash with a rotted-out corner, maybe 3-4" of wood gone
    completely. My plan is to clean out all the rot, embed some metal in the
    corner and use this stuff to rebuild the frame. Even thinking of making
    a small silicone mold for the window-stop profile to replicate it.

    Anyone know what this stuff is, and where to get it? I'm pretty sure
    it's some kind of epoxy with fillers added. Probably not cheap, either.


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    Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism
     
    David Nebenzahl, Sep 1, 2009
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    George Guest

    David Nebenzahl wrote:
    > Don't mind that name--that's just what I'm calling the stuff. The stuff
    > being what a guy would want to use to fix a rotted window frame.
    >
    > I've seen this stuff, both on the tube and in the flesh: a putty that
    > dries hard and white, and is perfect for the repair I need to do. I have
    > a window sash with a rotted-out corner, maybe 3-4" of wood gone
    > completely. My plan is to clean out all the rot, embed some metal in the
    > corner and use this stuff to rebuild the frame. Even thinking of making
    > a small silicone mold for the window-stop profile to replicate it.
    >
    > Anyone know what this stuff is, and where to get it? I'm pretty sure
    > it's some kind of epoxy with fillers added. Probably not cheap, either.
    >
    >


    This company makes good stuff:

    http://www.pcepoxy.com/woodproducts/woodpcwoody.php
     
    George, Sep 1, 2009
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    fftt Guest

    On Aug 31, 5:52 pm, David Nebenzahl <> wrote:
    > Don't mind that name--that's just what I'm calling the stuff. The stuff
    > being what a guy would want to use to fix a rotted window frame.
    >
    > I've seen this stuff, both on the tube and in the flesh: a putty that
    > dries hard and white, and is perfect for the repair I need to do. I have
    > a window sash with a rotted-out corner, maybe 3-4" of wood gone
    > completely. My plan is to clean out all the rot, embed some metal in the
    > corner and use this stuff to rebuild the frame. Even thinking of making
    > a small silicone mold for the window-stop profile to replicate it.
    >
    > Anyone know what this stuff is, and where to get it? I'm pretty sure
    > it's some kind of epoxy with fillers added. Probably not cheap, either.
    >
    > --
    > Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism


    www.abatron.com

    http://www.abatron.com/cms/buildingandrestorationproducts/woodrestorationmaintenance.html

    LiquidWood & WoodEpox

    I've used it since the late 80's to do rotted / deteriorated sill &
    sash repairs
    I recently (Fall 2006) rebuilt a rotted sash corner about the same as
    yours....I drilled & embedded some 10-24 SS threaded rod.

    very good stuff, not cheap but well worth it. Can be dyed, painted,
    drilled, etc

    forget the silicone mold, just putty knife the stuff close & sand,
    plane, saw, scrape or chisel it to shape.

    email me privately if you want photos of my repairs or any other info


    cheers
    Bob
     
    fftt, Sep 1, 2009
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  4. On 8/31/2009 6:23 PM George spake thus:

    > David Nebenzahl wrote:
    >
    >> Don't mind that name--that's just what I'm calling the stuff. The stuff
    >> being what a guy would want to use to fix a rotted window frame.
    >>
    >> I've seen this stuff, both on the tube and in the flesh: a putty that
    >> dries hard and white, and is perfect for the repair I need to do. I have
    >> a window sash with a rotted-out corner, maybe 3-4" of wood gone
    >> completely. My plan is to clean out all the rot, embed some metal in the
    >> corner and use this stuff to rebuild the frame. Even thinking of making
    >> a small silicone mold for the window-stop profile to replicate it.
    >>
    >> Anyone know what this stuff is, and where to get it? I'm pretty sure
    >> it's some kind of epoxy with fillers added. Probably not cheap, either.

    >
    > This company makes good stuff:
    >
    > http://www.pcepoxy.com/woodproducts/woodpcwoody.php


    Not the stuff I was thinking of.

    I've used PC-Woody; in fact, I have a couple of cans of it now. It seems
    pretty strong, but this other stuff I've seen seems even better.

    Have you (or anyone else here) used PC-Woody to repair large missing
    pieces in wood?


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    Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism
     
    David Nebenzahl, Sep 1, 2009
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  5. On 8/31/2009 8:15 PM fftt spake thus:

    > On Aug 31, 5:52 pm, David Nebenzahl <> wrote:
    >
    >> Don't mind that name--that's just what I'm calling the stuff. The stuff
    >> being what a guy would want to use to fix a rotted window frame.
    >>
    >> I've seen this stuff, both on the tube and in the flesh: a putty that
    >> dries hard and white, and is perfect for the repair I need to do. I have
    >> a window sash with a rotted-out corner, maybe 3-4" of wood gone
    >> completely. My plan is to clean out all the rot, embed some metal in the
    >> corner and use this stuff to rebuild the frame. Even thinking of making
    >> a small silicone mold for the window-stop profile to replicate it.
    >>
    >> Anyone know what this stuff is, and where to get it? I'm pretty sure
    >> it's some kind of epoxy with fillers added. Probably not cheap, either.

    >
    > www.abatron.com
    >
    > http://www.abatron.com/cms/buildingandrestorationproducts/woodrestorationmaintenance.html
    >
    > LiquidWood & WoodEpox
    >
    > I've used it since the late 80's to do rotted / deteriorated sill &
    > sash repairs
    > I recently (Fall 2006) rebuilt a rotted sash corner about the same as
    > yours....I drilled & embedded some 10-24 SS threaded rod.
    >
    > very good stuff, not cheap but well worth it. Can be dyed, painted,
    > drilled, etc
    >
    > forget the silicone mold, just putty knife the stuff close & sand,
    > plane, saw, scrape or chisel it to shape.


    Thanks. Looks like good stuff, but yes, expen$ive: more than $60 for a
    quart, which I'll probably need. Of course, the client'll be paying for
    it, so maybe it's OK. (On the other hand, I'm going to call tomorrow to
    get a price on a new sash. I got a price last week from a local place
    for a larger window, about 30x36, and they quoted me a surprisingly
    reasonable price: less than $150, including the "horns". Since this is a
    lower sash and smaller, presumably it'd be cheaper. And by the time you
    figure in all my time, it might just be better to get a new sash made.)

    I just mixed up a batch of PC-Woody; tomorrow I'll see how nicely it
    sets. Have you ever used that stuff?


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    Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism
     
    David Nebenzahl, Sep 1, 2009
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  6. David Nebenzahl

    JIMMIE Guest

    On Aug 31, 8:52 pm, David Nebenzahl <> wrote:
    > Don't mind that name--that's just what I'm calling the stuff. The stuff
    > being what a guy would want to use to fix a rotted window frame.
    >
    > I've seen this stuff, both on the tube and in the flesh: a putty that
    > dries hard and white, and is perfect for the repair I need to do. I have
    > a window sash with a rotted-out corner, maybe 3-4" of wood gone
    > completely. My plan is to clean out all the rot, embed some metal in the
    > corner and use this stuff to rebuild the frame. Even thinking of making
    > a small silicone mold for the window-stop profile to replicate it.
    >
    > Anyone know what this stuff is, and where to get it? I'm pretty sure
    > it's some kind of epoxy with fillers added. Probably not cheap, either.
    >
    > --
    > Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism


    I fixed my kitchen window and a few others several years ago using
    Bondo automotive body filler. I understand they make a product for
    wood now. I took out all the roted wood and treated what was left with
    wood preservative and wood hardener. No problems since then, I think
    this was about 10 years ago.

    Jimmie
     
    JIMMIE, Sep 1, 2009
    #6
  7. David Nebenzahl

    George Guest

    David Nebenzahl wrote:
    > On 8/31/2009 6:23 PM George spake thus:
    >
    >> David Nebenzahl wrote:
    > >
    >>> Don't mind that name--that's just what I'm calling the stuff. The
    >>> stuff being what a guy would want to use to fix a rotted window frame.
    >>>
    >>> I've seen this stuff, both on the tube and in the flesh: a putty that
    >>> dries hard and white, and is perfect for the repair I need to do. I
    >>> have a window sash with a rotted-out corner, maybe 3-4" of wood gone
    >>> completely. My plan is to clean out all the rot, embed some metal in
    >>> the corner and use this stuff to rebuild the frame. Even thinking of
    >>> making a small silicone mold for the window-stop profile to replicate
    >>> it.
    >>>
    >>> Anyone know what this stuff is, and where to get it? I'm pretty sure
    >>> it's some kind of epoxy with fillers added. Probably not cheap, either.

    >>
    >> This company makes good stuff:
    >>
    >> http://www.pcepoxy.com/woodproducts/woodpcwoody.php

    >
    > Not the stuff I was thinking of.
    >
    > I've used PC-Woody; in fact, I have a couple of cans of it now. It seems
    > pretty strong, but this other stuff I've seen seems even better.
    >
    > Have you (or anyone else here) used PC-Woody to repair large missing
    > pieces in wood?
    >
    >

    PC-Woody is as strong/stronger than wood and you can work it just like
    wood. How would something else be "better"?
     
    George, Sep 1, 2009
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  8. On 9/1/2009 4:21 AM George spake thus:

    > David Nebenzahl wrote:
    >
    >> On 8/31/2009 6:23 PM George spake thus:
    >>
    >>> David Nebenzahl wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Don't mind that name--that's just what I'm calling the stuff. The
    >>>> stuff being what a guy would want to use to fix a rotted window frame.
    >>>>
    >>>> I've seen this stuff, both on the tube and in the flesh: a putty that
    >>>> dries hard and white, and is perfect for the repair I need to do. I
    >>>> have a window sash with a rotted-out corner, maybe 3-4" of wood gone
    >>>> completely. My plan is to clean out all the rot, embed some metal in
    >>>> the corner and use this stuff to rebuild the frame. Even thinking of
    >>>> making a small silicone mold for the window-stop profile to replicate
    >>>> it.
    >>>>
    >>>> Anyone know what this stuff is, and where to get it? I'm pretty sure
    >>>> it's some kind of epoxy with fillers added. Probably not cheap, either.
    >>>
    >>> This company makes good stuff:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.pcepoxy.com/woodproducts/woodpcwoody.php

    >>
    >> Not the stuff I was thinking of.
    >>
    >> I've used PC-Woody; in fact, I have a couple of cans of it now. It seems
    >> pretty strong, but this other stuff I've seen seems even better.
    >>
    >> Have you (or anyone else here) used PC-Woody to repair large missing
    >> pieces in wood?

    >
    > PC-Woody is as strong/stronger than wood and you can work it just like
    > wood. How would something else be "better"?


    Dunno. Just checked that batch of PC-Woody I mixed last night. It seems
    plenty hard and stable enough. I think I'm going to pick up a couple
    cans of it and go for it. It's a lot cheaper than that other "system"
    suggested here.


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    Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism
     
    David Nebenzahl, Sep 1, 2009
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  9. David Nebenzahl

    George Guest

    David Nebenzahl wrote:
    > On 9/1/2009 4:21 AM George spake thus:
    >
    >> David Nebenzahl wrote:
    > >
    >>> On 8/31/2009 6:23 PM George spake thus:
    >>>
    >>>> David Nebenzahl wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Don't mind that name--that's just what I'm calling the stuff. The
    >>>>> stuff being what a guy would want to use to fix a rotted window frame.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I've seen this stuff, both on the tube and in the flesh: a putty
    >>>>> that dries hard and white, and is perfect for the repair I need to
    >>>>> do. I have a window sash with a rotted-out corner, maybe 3-4" of
    >>>>> wood gone completely. My plan is to clean out all the rot, embed
    >>>>> some metal in the corner and use this stuff to rebuild the frame.
    >>>>> Even thinking of making a small silicone mold for the window-stop
    >>>>> profile to replicate it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Anyone know what this stuff is, and where to get it? I'm pretty
    >>>>> sure it's some kind of epoxy with fillers added. Probably not
    >>>>> cheap, either.
    >>>>
    >>>> This company makes good stuff:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.pcepoxy.com/woodproducts/woodpcwoody.php
    >>>
    >>> Not the stuff I was thinking of.
    >>>
    >>> I've used PC-Woody; in fact, I have a couple of cans of it now. It
    >>> seems pretty strong, but this other stuff I've seen seems even better.
    >>>
    >>> Have you (or anyone else here) used PC-Woody to repair large missing
    >>> pieces in wood?

    >>
    >> PC-Woody is as strong/stronger than wood and you can work it just like
    >> wood. How would something else be "better"?

    >
    > Dunno. Just checked that batch of PC-Woody I mixed last night. It seems
    > plenty hard and stable enough. I think I'm going to pick up a couple
    > cans of it and go for it. It's a lot cheaper than that other "system"
    > suggested here.
    >
    >

    I think you might have been overthinking it. The final result is just
    like wood except no grain. Be aware there is still prep that may include
    other products just like any other systems.

    That company is a very innovative small company which makes quality
    stuff. A buddy is a chemist and he used to work for them. They don't
    spend a lot of money on marketing (probably don't have it). Their
    trademark marketing is the soda bottle with various objects glued to it
    ( http://www.pcepoxy.com/ for current version )with their flagship PC-7
    epoxy that was on the counter of every hardware store in my region.
     
    George, Sep 2, 2009
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