Weed killer and peonies

Discussion in 'Home Repair' started by William Morris, Apr 26, 2004.

  1. Had some rather aggressively growing dandylions and chickweed, but too soon
    after a previous round of fertilizer to use Weed 'n' Feed, so I picked up
    some Ortho weed killer - the kind in the bottle you put on your garden
    hose - and began treating. The instructions say that in certain
    concentrations it's safe for lawns, and in heavier concentrations it starts
    killing just about everything it touches.

    It worked as I expected it to, though some overspray hit the peonies. The
    ones hit by the overspray are now growing in curlycues, though other than
    some truly bizarre twists and turns appear to be growing normally, getting
    ready to bloom and everything. So, have I permanently damaged the plants,
    or will they be okay next season? We plan to move the beds, so if I have to
    discard those bulbs that'll be the time anyway.

    Thanks!

    - Wm

    --
    William Morris
     
    William Morris, Apr 26, 2004
    #1
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  2. William Morris

    Doug Kanter Guest

    Maybe. That's the price for using weed killer instead of making the lawn
    healthier so it can compete.

    "William Morris" <> wrote in
    message news:c6j940$c5hld$-berlin.de...
    > Had some rather aggressively growing dandylions and chickweed, but too

    soon
    > after a previous round of fertilizer to use Weed 'n' Feed, so I picked up
    > some Ortho weed killer - the kind in the bottle you put on your garden
    > hose - and began treating. The instructions say that in certain
    > concentrations it's safe for lawns, and in heavier concentrations it

    starts
    > killing just about everything it touches.
    >
    > It worked as I expected it to, though some overspray hit the peonies. The
    > ones hit by the overspray are now growing in curlycues, though other than
    > some truly bizarre twists and turns appear to be growing normally, getting
    > ready to bloom and everything. So, have I permanently damaged the plants,
    > or will they be okay next season? We plan to move the beds, so if I have

    to
    > discard those bulbs that'll be the time anyway.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > - Wm
    >
    > --
    > William Morris
    >
    >
    >
     
    Doug Kanter, Apr 26, 2004
    #2
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  3. Thanks Doug. "Maybe" what? Maybe I've killed the plants? Maybe they'll
    grow back? What? To be perfectly frank, it wasn't a terribly helpful
    answer.

    For the record, I've done the best I know how at working to make the lawn
    healthier - considering that I started with something that looked like a
    topographical map of Northern Afghanistan the fact that with a few years
    attention and little budget I have mostly healthy grass with a few remaining
    trouble spots is good progress. I'm quite certain that if I'd said "I
    applied weed'n'feed within a month of fertilizer and crabgrass preventer"
    you'd have said I'm fertilizing too much. You can't have it both ways.

    So, the original question, as yet constructively unanswered, remains: are
    the peonies permanently damaged?



    "Doug Kanter" <> wrote in message
    news:4vajc.2796$...
    > Maybe. That's the price for using weed killer instead of making the lawn
    > healthier so it can compete.
    >
    > "William Morris" <> wrote in
    > message news:c6j940$c5hld$-berlin.de...
    > > Had some rather aggressively growing dandylions and chickweed, but too

    > soon
    > > after a previous round of fertilizer to use Weed 'n' Feed, so I picked

    up
    > > some Ortho weed killer - the kind in the bottle you put on your garden
    > > hose - and began treating. The instructions say that in certain
    > > concentrations it's safe for lawns, and in heavier concentrations it

    > starts
    > > killing just about everything it touches.
    > >
    > > It worked as I expected it to, though some overspray hit the peonies.

    The
    > > ones hit by the overspray are now growing in curlycues, though other

    than
    > > some truly bizarre twists and turns appear to be growing normally,

    getting
    > > ready to bloom and everything. So, have I permanently damaged the

    plants,
    > > or will they be okay next season? We plan to move the beds, so if I

    have
    > to
    > > discard those bulbs that'll be the time anyway.
    > >
    > > Thanks!
    > >
    > > - Wm
    > >
    > > --
    > > William Morris
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    William Morris, Apr 26, 2004
    #3
  4. William Morris

    Doug Kanter Guest

    Sorry....I'm in the midst of a battle with a neighbor who's addicted the
    ChemLawn, too close to the property line. So, I'm in a MOOD. Honestly,
    there's no way of knowing if you've killed the plant. I'd call Ortho. If it
    were mine, I'd flood it with water daily, hope for the best, and see what
    happens next year around this time.

    "William Morris" <> wrote in
    message news:c6jdqp$cd4cg$-berlin.de...
    > Thanks Doug. "Maybe" what? Maybe I've killed the plants? Maybe they'll
    > grow back? What? To be perfectly frank, it wasn't a terribly helpful
    > answer.
    >
    > For the record, I've done the best I know how at working to make the lawn
    > healthier - considering that I started with something that looked like a
    > topographical map of Northern Afghanistan the fact that with a few years
    > attention and little budget I have mostly healthy grass with a few

    remaining
    > trouble spots is good progress. I'm quite certain that if I'd said "I
    > applied weed'n'feed within a month of fertilizer and crabgrass preventer"
    > you'd have said I'm fertilizing too much. You can't have it both ways.
    >
    > So, the original question, as yet constructively unanswered, remains: are
    > the peonies permanently damaged?
    >
    >
    >
    > "Doug Kanter" <> wrote in message
    > news:4vajc.2796$...
    > > Maybe. That's the price for using weed killer instead of making the lawn
    > > healthier so it can compete.
    > >
    > > "William Morris" <> wrote in
    > > message news:c6j940$c5hld$-berlin.de...
    > > > Had some rather aggressively growing dandylions and chickweed, but too

    > > soon
    > > > after a previous round of fertilizer to use Weed 'n' Feed, so I picked

    > up
    > > > some Ortho weed killer - the kind in the bottle you put on your

    garden
    > > > hose - and began treating. The instructions say that in certain
    > > > concentrations it's safe for lawns, and in heavier concentrations it

    > > starts
    > > > killing just about everything it touches.
    > > >
    > > > It worked as I expected it to, though some overspray hit the peonies.

    > The
    > > > ones hit by the overspray are now growing in curlycues, though other

    > than
    > > > some truly bizarre twists and turns appear to be growing normally,

    > getting
    > > > ready to bloom and everything. So, have I permanently damaged the

    > plants,
    > > > or will they be okay next season? We plan to move the beds, so if I

    > have
    > > to
    > > > discard those bulbs that'll be the time anyway.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks!
    > > >
    > > > - Wm
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > William Morris
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Doug Kanter, Apr 26, 2004
    #4
  5. Thankfully, we had two straight days of rain the starting the day after the
    application of the weed killer. I'll give the Ortho folks a call!

    - Wm

    "Doug Kanter" <> wrote in message
    news:WWajc.2797$...
    > Sorry....I'm in the midst of a battle with a neighbor who's addicted the
    > ChemLawn, too close to the property line. So, I'm in a MOOD. Honestly,
    > there's no way of knowing if you've killed the plant. I'd call Ortho. If

    it
    > were mine, I'd flood it with water daily, hope for the best, and see what
    > happens next year around this time.
    >
    > "William Morris" <> wrote in
    > message news:c6jdqp$cd4cg$-berlin.de...
    > > Thanks Doug. "Maybe" what? Maybe I've killed the plants? Maybe

    they'll
    > > grow back? What? To be perfectly frank, it wasn't a terribly helpful
    > > answer.
    > >
    > > For the record, I've done the best I know how at working to make the

    lawn
    > > healthier - considering that I started with something that looked like a
    > > topographical map of Northern Afghanistan the fact that with a few years
    > > attention and little budget I have mostly healthy grass with a few

    > remaining
    > > trouble spots is good progress. I'm quite certain that if I'd said "I
    > > applied weed'n'feed within a month of fertilizer and crabgrass

    preventer"
    > > you'd have said I'm fertilizing too much. You can't have it both ways.
    > >
    > > So, the original question, as yet constructively unanswered, remains:

    are
    > > the peonies permanently damaged?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Doug Kanter" <> wrote in message
    > > news:4vajc.2796$...
    > > > Maybe. That's the price for using weed killer instead of making the

    lawn
    > > > healthier so it can compete.
    > > >
    > > > "William Morris" <> wrote in
    > > > message news:c6j940$c5hld$-berlin.de...
    > > > > Had some rather aggressively growing dandylions and chickweed, but

    too
    > > > soon
    > > > > after a previous round of fertilizer to use Weed 'n' Feed, so I

    picked
    > > up
    > > > > some Ortho weed killer - the kind in the bottle you put on your

    > garden
    > > > > hose - and began treating. The instructions say that in certain
    > > > > concentrations it's safe for lawns, and in heavier concentrations it
    > > > starts
    > > > > killing just about everything it touches.
    > > > >
    > > > > It worked as I expected it to, though some overspray hit the

    peonies.
    > > The
    > > > > ones hit by the overspray are now growing in curlycues, though other

    > > than
    > > > > some truly bizarre twists and turns appear to be growing normally,

    > > getting
    > > > > ready to bloom and everything. So, have I permanently damaged the

    > > plants,
    > > > > or will they be okay next season? We plan to move the beds, so if I

    > > have
    > > > to
    > > > > discard those bulbs that'll be the time anyway.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks!
    > > > >
    > > > > - Wm
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > William Morris
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    William Morris, Apr 26, 2004
    #5
  6. William Morris

    Doug Kanter Guest

    Be thankful you don't have bindweed. Not fun. Evil.

    "William Morris" <> wrote in
    message news:c6jeas$bva2k$-berlin.de...
    > Thankfully, we had two straight days of rain the starting the day after

    the
    > application of the weed killer. I'll give the Ortho folks a call!
    >
    > - Wm
    >
    > "Doug Kanter" <> wrote in message
    > news:WWajc.2797$...
    > > Sorry....I'm in the midst of a battle with a neighbor who's addicted the
    > > ChemLawn, too close to the property line. So, I'm in a MOOD. Honestly,
    > > there's no way of knowing if you've killed the plant. I'd call Ortho. If

    > it
    > > were mine, I'd flood it with water daily, hope for the best, and see

    what
    > > happens next year around this time.
    > >
    > > "William Morris" <> wrote in
    > > message news:c6jdqp$cd4cg$-berlin.de...
    > > > Thanks Doug. "Maybe" what? Maybe I've killed the plants? Maybe

    > they'll
    > > > grow back? What? To be perfectly frank, it wasn't a terribly helpful
    > > > answer.
    > > >
    > > > For the record, I've done the best I know how at working to make the

    > lawn
    > > > healthier - considering that I started with something that looked like

    a
    > > > topographical map of Northern Afghanistan the fact that with a few

    years
    > > > attention and little budget I have mostly healthy grass with a few

    > > remaining
    > > > trouble spots is good progress. I'm quite certain that if I'd said "I
    > > > applied weed'n'feed within a month of fertilizer and crabgrass

    > preventer"
    > > > you'd have said I'm fertilizing too much. You can't have it both

    ways.
    > > >
    > > > So, the original question, as yet constructively unanswered, remains:

    > are
    > > > the peonies permanently damaged?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Doug Kanter" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:4vajc.2796$...
    > > > > Maybe. That's the price for using weed killer instead of making the

    > lawn
    > > > > healthier so it can compete.
    > > > >
    > > > > "William Morris" <> wrote

    in
    > > > > message news:c6j940$c5hld$-berlin.de...
    > > > > > Had some rather aggressively growing dandylions and chickweed, but

    > too
    > > > > soon
    > > > > > after a previous round of fertilizer to use Weed 'n' Feed, so I

    > picked
    > > > up
    > > > > > some Ortho weed killer - the kind in the bottle you put on your

    > > garden
    > > > > > hose - and began treating. The instructions say that in certain
    > > > > > concentrations it's safe for lawns, and in heavier concentrations

    it
    > > > > starts
    > > > > > killing just about everything it touches.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > It worked as I expected it to, though some overspray hit the

    > peonies.
    > > > The
    > > > > > ones hit by the overspray are now growing in curlycues, though

    other
    > > > than
    > > > > > some truly bizarre twists and turns appear to be growing normally,
    > > > getting
    > > > > > ready to bloom and everything. So, have I permanently damaged the
    > > > plants,
    > > > > > or will they be okay next season? We plan to move the beds, so if

    I
    > > > have
    > > > > to
    > > > > > discard those bulbs that'll be the time anyway.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Thanks!
    > > > > >
    > > > > > - Wm
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > William Morris
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Doug Kanter, Apr 26, 2004
    #6
  7. William Morris

    Harry K Guest

    "Doug Kanter" <> wrote in message news:<87bjc.2800$>...
    > Be thankful you don't have bindweed. Not fun. Evil.
    >
    >

    I'll second that! Still spraying after almost 30 years. I think I
    have an example of evolution in action. That stuff now seems to
    -need- 24D as a supplement. ;)

    Harry K
     
    Harry K, May 3, 2004
    #7
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