water in toilet bowl disappears!

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  1. deek1990

    deek1990 Guest

    after flushing normally, the water in our upstairs toilet bowl
    gradually goes down over the course of a few hours. Overnight it has
    gone down about 1 inch. I'm sure if we went away for a few days, it
    would be empty. There are no wet marks on the floor next to it, nor
    are there any on the ceiling below it. Why is it going down? and how
    do we fix it?

    Thanks for your help!
    Cheers,
    Deek
    deek1990, Oct 12, 2004
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  2. deek1990

    Doug Miller Guest

    In article <>, (deek1990) wrote:
    >after flushing normally, the water in our upstairs toilet bowl
    >gradually goes down over the course of a few hours. Overnight it has
    >gone down about 1 inch. I'm sure if we went away for a few days, it
    >would be empty. There are no wet marks on the floor next to it, nor
    >are there any on the ceiling below it. Why is it going down? and how
    >do we fix it?


    Do you have a dog?

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    bill a Guest

    I would guess that there is a leak in the (low) trap area, and the water
    is either being directed by the wax seal back into the drain, or the water
    is crawling down the outside of the closet ell and stack without touching
    the other building materials along the way. In the latter case, would
    you be able to see any dampness at the bottom of the stack?

    Bill


    "deek1990" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > after flushing normally, the water in our upstairs toilet bowl
    > gradually goes down over the course of a few hours. Overnight it has
    > gone down about 1 inch. I'm sure if we went away for a few days, it
    > would be empty. There are no wet marks on the floor next to it, nor
    > are there any on the ceiling below it. Why is it going down? and how
    > do we fix it?
    >
    > Thanks for your help!
    > Cheers,
    > Deek
    bill a, Oct 12, 2004
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    Karen in MN Guest

    "deek1990" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > after flushing normally, the water in our upstairs toilet bowl
    > gradually goes down over the course of a few hours. Overnight it has
    > gone down about 1 inch. I'm sure if we went away for a few days, it
    > would be empty. There are no wet marks on the floor next to it, nor
    > are there any on the ceiling below it. Why is it going down? and how
    > do we fix it?
    >
    > Thanks for your help!
    > Cheers,
    > Deek


    That happened to mine -- right before the sewer line backed up through the
    floor drain and into the house (and into the living room, since I have no
    basement). When the roto-rooter guy came out, the first thing he said was
    "did the water empty out of the toilet bowl, because that's usually the
    first sign". I still don't understand the connection between the two. The
    level in the toilet on that floor had been gradually going down and I didn't
    think much about it because it didn't seem significant, and the one day it
    all just gurgled and sucked out, and the next thing I know there was sewage
    coming up the drain.
    Karen in MN, Oct 12, 2004
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    Speedy Jim Guest

    Greg wrote:
    >
    > >When the roto-rooter guy came out, the first thing he said was
    > >"did the water empty out of the toilet bowl, because that's usually the
    > >first sign".

    >
    > This is because water backs up in the pipe far enough where it interrupts the
    > venting process. Then siphon action when using other drains will suck water out
    > of the traps, the toilet being the most noticable one.
    > The flip side of that is you may also see bubbles or gurgling in the toilet as
    > the pipe fills beyond the venting level


    Greg is 100% right.

    In the case of the OP, it didn't sound like any backup problem though.

    Slow draining of the trap water is usually due either to a foreign
    object (cloth or string for example) in the bowl trap or an internal
    crack in the trap. In the string case, the string acts as a
    wick to siphon water out.
    (I like the dog explanation too!)
    Speedy Jim, Oct 12, 2004
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    Harry K Guest

    (deek1990) wrote in message news:<>...
    > after flushing normally, the water in our upstairs toilet bowl
    > gradually goes down over the course of a few hours. Overnight it has
    > gone down about 1 inch. I'm sure if we went away for a few days, it
    > would be empty. There are no wet marks on the floor next to it, nor
    > are there any on the ceiling below it. Why is it going down? and how
    > do we fix it?
    >
    > Thanks for your help!
    > Cheers,
    > Deek


    Hmmm...a rag or a even a thread running through the trap in the bowl
    will siphon water out.

    Harry K
    Harry K, Oct 13, 2004
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    baker Guest

    Joshua Putnam <> wrote in
    news::

    > In article <>,
    > says...
    >
    >> Hmmm...a rag or a even a thread running through the trap in the bowl
    >> will siphon water out.

    >
    > Or a long hair if someone in the household is in the habit of brushing
    > her hair near the toilet....
    >


    Maybe someone is drinking it.

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    baker, Oct 17, 2004
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