Water Bed Leak

Discussion in 'Home Repair' started by John Gilmer, Feb 14, 2004.

  1. John Gilmer

    John Gilmer Guest

    Our fancy (with baffles and foam) waterbed "mattress" has started leaking.

    I located the leak. It's at the place where some extra plastic is "welded"
    onto the corner. You can see a crack in the patch and it seems that the
    "patch" (it was built with the "patches" on each corner is slightly more
    ridged and caused a pinhole leak in the softer plastic.

    What to do? What to do?

    (BTW: The mattress is at least 9 years old and could be as much as 10 years
    old (we upgraded our original WB but don't remember exactly when.)

    I would like to attempt to repair it. If other leaks start, I will assume
    that it's gotten old and "needs new."
     
    John Gilmer, Feb 14, 2004
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  2. John Gilmer wrote:
    > Our fancy (with baffles and foam) waterbed "mattress" has started
    > leaking.
    > What to do? What to do?
    >
    > (BTW: The mattress is at least 9 years old and could be as much as
    > 10 years old (we upgraded our original WB but don't remember exactly
    > when.)


    Given the age, I'd replace it. IIRC, you are approaching the practicla
    limits of water bed life.

    --
    Ed

    http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Feb 14, 2004
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  3. John Gilmer

    John W Guest

    You can try a patch-less vinyl repair product (available at most swimming
    pool stores).

    It's just a thick glue that cures over small cracks, on seams and in corners
    like this where a patch won't work.

    I can't remember if there is one that works under water or not so you may
    have to drain the mattress.

    Ask at the pool store - they're usually experts at patching vinyl.

    John W

    "John Gilmer" <> wrote in message
    news:402ea34e$0$...
    > Our fancy (with baffles and foam) waterbed "mattress" has started leaking.
    >
    > I located the leak. It's at the place where some extra plastic is

    "welded"
    > onto the corner. You can see a crack in the patch and it seems that the
    > "patch" (it was built with the "patches" on each corner is slightly more
    > ridged and caused a pinhole leak in the softer plastic.
    >
    > What to do? What to do?
    >
    > (BTW: The mattress is at least 9 years old and could be as much as 10

    years
    > old (we upgraded our original WB but don't remember exactly when.)
    >
    > I would like to attempt to repair it. If other leaks start, I will assume
    > that it's gotten old and "needs new."
    >
    >
     
    John W, Feb 15, 2004
    #3
  4. I remember when one of the waterbed stores had a sharp pencil
    they would invite one of the kids to put a hole in the bed, then
    patch it. Hundreds of little patch-places on that bed, during the
    early days of waterbeds when the big cloud over them was
    "springing a leak" (Didn't mention that the seam was a problem area).
    Anyway, that demonstration sold a lot of waterbeds. And certainly
    no need to empty, that long ago.

    John W <Don'> wrote in message
    news:...
    > You can try a patch-less vinyl repair product (available at most swimming
    > pool stores).
    >
    > It's just a thick glue that cures over small cracks, on seams and in

    corners
    > like this where a patch won't work.
    >
    > I can't remember if there is one that works under water or not so you may
    > have to drain the mattress.
    >
    > Ask at the pool store - they're usually experts at patching vinyl.
    >
    > John W
    >
    > "John Gilmer" <> wrote in message
    > news:402ea34e$0$...
    > > Our fancy (with baffles and foam) waterbed "mattress" has started

    leaking.
    > >
    > > I located the leak. It's at the place where some extra plastic is

    > "welded"
    > > onto the corner. You can see a crack in the patch and it seems that

    the
    > > "patch" (it was built with the "patches" on each corner is slightly

    more
    > > ridged and caused a pinhole leak in the softer plastic.
    > >
    > > What to do? What to do?
    > >
    > > (BTW: The mattress is at least 9 years old and could be as much as 10

    > years
    > > old (we upgraded our original WB but don't remember exactly when.)
    > >
    > > I would like to attempt to repair it. If other leaks start, I will

    assume
    > > that it's gotten old and "needs new."
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Michael Baugh, Feb 15, 2004
    #4
  5. John Gilmer

    E5I5O Guest

    In all given the age I would replace the mattress! It more then likely seen
    better days! Seem repairs can be hell as they are, I had the same problem
    once years ago, I tried the patch glue stuff and the seem tore further and
    further with use. I also decided on swapping out the liner during the change
    as the liner gets brittle and cracks, more so around the heater area,
    Electric and and water are two things not to play with on a waterbed!! With
    the price of a new mattress, you may find that buying the mattress only will
    be surprisingly cheap! I believe I only paid $40 for the non baffled king
    size mattress I had, and that price included the new liner as well!

    Sincerely, E5


    "John Gilmer" <> wrote in message
    news:402ea34e$0$...
    > Our fancy (with baffles and foam) waterbed "mattress" has started leaking.
    >
    > I located the leak. It's at the place where some extra plastic is

    "welded"
    > onto the corner. You can see a crack in the patch and it seems that the
    > "patch" (it was built with the "patches" on each corner is slightly more
    > ridged and caused a pinhole leak in the softer plastic.
    >
    > What to do? What to do?
    >
    > (BTW: The mattress is at least 9 years old and could be as much as 10

    years
    > old (we upgraded our original WB but don't remember exactly when.)
    >
    > I would like to attempt to repair it. If other leaks start, I will assume
    > that it's gotten old and "needs new."
    >
    >
     
    E5I5O, Feb 16, 2004
    #5
  6. John Gilmer

    John Gilmer Guest

    "E5I5O" <jbaker7(nospam)@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:BW9Yb.73608$%...
    > In all given the age I would replace the mattress! It more then likely

    seen
    > better days! Seem repairs can be hell as they are, I had the same problem
    > once years ago, I tried the patch glue stuff and the seem tore further and
    > further with use. I also decided on swapping out the liner during the

    change
    > as the liner gets brittle and cracks, more so around the heater area,
    > Electric and and water are two things not to play with on a waterbed!!

    With
    > the price of a new mattress, you may find that buying the mattress only

    will
    > be surprisingly cheap! I believe I only paid $40 for the non baffled king
    > size mattress I had, and that price included the new liner as well!


    Well, we went "window shopping." A "nice" baffle mattress is about $200+
    and the fancy "zip on" pads are about another $200+. But I understand
    your point. I will give the repair a shot tomorrow (I will have to
    "dewater" the end of the mattress) and it I can't fix it I guess we will be
    out another $500 or so.

    The "Liners" are about $10 at Wally World. (IOW: it's a relative freebee.)


    >
    > Sincerely, E5
    >
    >
    > "John Gilmer" <> wrote in message
    > news:402ea34e$0$...
    > > Our fancy (with baffles and foam) waterbed "mattress" has started

    leaking.
    > >
    > > I located the leak. It's at the place where some extra plastic is

    > "welded"
    > > onto the corner. You can see a crack in the patch and it seems that

    the
    > > "patch" (it was built with the "patches" on each corner is slightly

    more
    > > ridged and caused a pinhole leak in the softer plastic.
    > >
    > > What to do? What to do?
    > >
    > > (BTW: The mattress is at least 9 years old and could be as much as 10

    > years
    > > old (we upgraded our original WB but don't remember exactly when.)
    > >
    > > I would like to attempt to repair it. If other leaks start, I will

    assume
    > > that it's gotten old and "needs new."
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    John Gilmer, Feb 17, 2004
    #6
  7. John Gilmer wrote:
    > "E5I5O" <jbaker7(nospam)@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:BW9Yb.73608$%...
    >> In all given the age I would replace the mattress! It more then likely seen
    >> better days! Seem repairs can be hell as they are, I had the same problem
    >> once years ago, I tried the patch glue stuff and the seem tore further and
    >> further with use.



    There is some stuff called Aqua Seal that I bought at a scuba shop that I've had
    excellent luck with. You can use it as is, or mix it with Cotol-240 (available
    from the same places) that works as a catylist and accellerant. In either case,
    the stuff goes on like model airplane cement and forms its own seal. You don't
    need to add a patch over it though I suppose you could.

    The best thing as far as I was concerned is that it allowed me to repair a hole
    in my full motion waterbed mattress without emptying any water out. I mixed the
    stuff with Cotol, slathered it on, and waited until that night before I lay down
    on the mattress again. So far, the repair has lasted about 10 years.

    I figure one of these days my mattress is due to explode when I dump my big ass
    on it, but I bet it won't be where I fixed it. Wonderful stuff.

    A quick google brought me to:
    http://www.wetsand.com/store/product.asp?ProdId=109&CatId=253 for Aqua Seal.

    Cotol can be found at: http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.asp?pfid=2293



    --
    Mortimer Schnerd, RN


    http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
     
    Mortimer Schnerd, RN, Feb 17, 2004
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  8. John Gilmer

    John Gilmer Guest


    > There is some stuff called Aqua Seal that I bought at a scuba shop that

    I've had
    > excellent luck with.


    Well, I'm not quite "in the middle of nowhere" but we had to drive for over
    40 minutes just to find a place that sold waterbeds!
     
    John Gilmer, Feb 17, 2004
    #8
  9. John Gilmer wrote:
    >
    > Well, I'm not quite "in the middle of nowhere" but we had to drive
    > for over 40 minutes just to find a place that sold waterbeds!


    That could be 50 miles in the West, or 2 blocks in NYC--
    Ed
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Feb 17, 2004
    #9
  10. John Gilmer () said...
    >
    >I located the leak. It's at the place where some extra plastic is "welded"
    >onto the corner. You can see a crack in the patch and it seems that the
    >"patch" (it was built with the "patches" on each corner is slightly more
    >ridged and caused a pinhole leak in the softer plastic.


    We just had a seam-located leak in a waterbed mattress that was getting
    close to 9 or 10 years old. Over the years, we've had the odd pin-prick
    type of leak that was very easy to fix, but being on a seam, coupled with
    the age of the mattress, it was just not repairable.

    Lucky for us, this happened a week before we were to move out of a
    basement apartment we were staying in while we built out new home back
    in December.

    We weren't in a position to set up our new bedroom until the second
    week of February, so we only went shopping for a new mattress then.
    The mattress (king size, semi-motionless with 12 baffles) cost about
    $150 (CAD).

    It is getting rather hard to find places that sell waterbeds! Though,
    I heard a story in the news a few months ago that bedbugs are making a
    comeback in North America, so we just might see people moving back to
    waterbeds.


    --
    Calvin Henry-Cotnam
    "Never ascribe to malice what can equally be explained by incompetence."
    - Napoleon
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    Calvin Henry-Cotnam, Mar 3, 2004
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  11. John Gilmer

    John Gilmer Guest

    "Calvin Henry-Cotnam" <> wrote in message
    news:y7a1c.595$...
    > John Gilmer () said...
    > >
    > >I located the leak. It's at the place where some extra plastic is

    "welded"
    > >onto the corner. You can see a crack in the patch and it seems that the
    > >"patch" (it was built with the "patches" on each corner is slightly more
    > >ridged and caused a pinhole leak in the softer plastic.

    >
    > We just had a seam-located leak in a waterbed mattress that was getting
    > close to 9 or 10 years old. Over the years, we've had the odd pin-prick
    > type of leak that was very easy to fix, but being on a seam, coupled with
    > the age of the mattress, it was just not repairable.
    >
    > Lucky for us, this happened a week before we were to move out of a
    > basement apartment we were staying in while we built out new home back
    > in December.
    >
    > We weren't in a position to set up our new bedroom until the second
    > week of February, so we only went shopping for a new mattress then.
    > The mattress (king size, semi-motionless with 12 baffles) cost about
    > $150 (CAD).


    That's a little less than the ones we priced (at one store) and our prices
    were $US!

    >
    > It is getting rather hard to find places that sell waterbeds! Though,
    > I heard a story in the news a few months ago that bedbugs are making a
    > comeback in North America, so we just might see people moving back to
    > waterbeds.


    Well, the first matress store we check DIDN'T sell waterbeds but they
    pointed us to another a very short distance away. I think the "Waterbed
    ONLY" operations are gone but many "regular" bedding stores have taken up
    the slack!


    In the 9 years or so we had the bed we didn't have any pinhole leaks at all.
     
    John Gilmer, Mar 3, 2004
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  12. John Gilmer

    Jim Strand Guest

    On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 01:01:18 GMT, (Calvin
    Henry-Cotnam) wrote:
    >
    >It is getting rather hard to find places that sell waterbeds!


    Fortunately easy to get online. Accessories too.
     
    Jim Strand, Mar 3, 2004
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