vertical outlet back-to-wall S trap toilet

Discussion in 'Misc DIY' started by sm_jamieson, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. sm_jamieson

    sm_jamieson Guest

    Can you (still) get a vertical outlet back-to-wall S trap toilet.
    I will be putting a new small toilet room into the corner of the
    kitchen, with the cistern the other side of the wall under the stairs.
    The loo needs to be back to the wall, with the outlet discharging
    downwards into a new soil pipe what will be layed in the floor.
    Can't find such on the web. Maybe I don't have the right keywords.
    Cheers,
    Simon.
     
    sm_jamieson, Jul 27, 2007
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  2. sm_jamieson

    Guest

    On Jul 27, 4:51 pm, sm_jamieson <> wrote:
    > Can you (still) get a vertical outlet back-to-wall S trap toilet.
    > I will be putting a new small toilet room into the corner of the
    > kitchen, with the cistern the other side of the wall under the stairs.
    > The loo needs to be back to the wall, with the outlet discharging
    > downwards into a new soil pipe what will be layed in the floor.
    > Can't find such on the web. Maybe I don't have the right keywords.
    > Cheers,
    > Simon.


    You need a standard back-to-the-wall toilet and concealed cistern.
    These have a horizontal outlet which is far enough forward to use a 90
    degree pan connector (or a swan neck if space is tight).

    I usually fit the Roca Laura version, or the Roca Senso Compact if
    space is really tight.

    A
     
    , Jul 27, 2007
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  3. sm_jamieson

    Roger R Guest

    "Andy Hall" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On 2007-07-27 16:51:14 +0100, sm_jamieson <> said:
    >
    > You should be able to use a rear outlet one quite easily.
    >
    > I've recently remodeled a cloakroom which has a soil pipe in the floor. I
    > went for a wall mounted pan and used a Grohe frame to mount it. [snip]
    > back. Geberit is another manufacturer of these.
    >

    Tried the Grohe web site, no pictures or mention of these frames.
    Got a bit closer with Geberit, who have a tiny thumbnail of some frames but
    clicking the download 'technical information' link on the Wall Hung Systems
    page, not unexpectedly returns a 404 error.

    Roger R
     
    Roger R, Jul 30, 2007
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  4. sm_jamieson

    Roger R Guest

    "Andy Hall" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > They hide their products well - obviously don't want *everyone* buying
    > them,,, :)
    >
    > http://www.grohe.co.uk/t/25_848.html
    >
    > http://www.geberit.co.uk/geberit/inet/uk/wcmsuk.nsf/pages/prod-san-Wall-duo-1


    Thanks for those links - more than I could find.

    > At any rate, you can get the Grohe cistern separately if you are happy
    > with a back to wall pan on the floor. The frame is to support wall mount
    > pans. My suggestion to look at this was based on having to deal with
    > soil connection in the floor with the wall directly in front of the frame.
    > If you have control over where the soil pipe is positioned in the floor,
    > then you have no problem.


    My situation is to replace a former close coupled Twyford S type pan.
    http://www.bluestar.65704.btinternet.co.uk/
    The difficulty is getting a new soil pipe outlet (with adpator) to line up
    with the soil pipe emerging from the flooring.

    I would like to go for a wall mounted pan, but am concerned that there will
    not be sufficient clearence behind the pan to get the outlet to line up with
    the soil pipe.

    The close coupled (cheapo) P type pans fitted with S adaptor that I have
    seen so far, require the soil pipe to be much closer to the wall than can
    be easily accomodated because the soil pipe comes along between rafters
    parallel to the wall. This would mean setting the cistern forward from the
    wall on some kind of boxed in frame. Not IMO the most desirable solution.

    Possibly the wall mounted pans you mentioned may offer a solution.

    Roger R
     
    Roger R, Jul 31, 2007
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  5. sm_jamieson

    John Guest

    Personally I have never felt too confident in sitting on a china item
    fastened to a wall that may already have been wreakened with a hole for a
    soil pipe.

    Any tales of problems?

    --
    >
    >
    >--
    > John
    >
     
    John, Aug 2, 2007
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