Replacing old concrete garage - Help please

Discussion in 'Misc DIY' started by pleasenospam@hotmail.co.uk, Jul 1, 2006.

  1. Guest

    Hi

    I have a old concrete built single garage that needs replacing. It has
    a busted wooden door, broken windows and a leaking asbestos
    roof....basically the thing leaks like anything and needs replacing.

    Is is possible to get someone to replace the windows, roof and door and
    make the place waterproof as the main structure seems ok to me. If not
    I was told a pre-cast garage might be the best option. I have no
    knowledge of these so are they any good? What sort of cost would it be
    to buy and install a pre-cast garage?

    thanks
    , Jul 1, 2006
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  2. <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi
    >
    > I have a old concrete built single garage that needs replacing. It has
    > a busted wooden door, broken windows and a leaking asbestos
    > roof....basically the thing leaks like anything and needs replacing.
    >
    > Is is possible to get someone to replace the windows, roof and door and
    > make the place waterproof as the main structure seems ok to me. If not
    > I was told a pre-cast garage might be the best option. I have no
    > knowledge of these so are they any good? What sort of cost would it be
    > to buy and install a pre-cast garage?
    >


    1 Measure the windows size using the actual hole sizes that exists less
    5mm.
    2 Go to a local Double Glazing company and ask them to make the windows.
    3 Install windows into a simple 4" X 2" frame made and screwed to the
    inside of the panels with a 1" overlap at the edges, mastic up around the
    edges to the concrete (IE 3" of the 4x2 hidden and 1 " showing for screwing
    the window to).
    4 While at the Double Glazing firm or at a good builders merchants ask
    about double wall clear acrylic roof sheet
    5 Fit said sheets to existing framework after carefully removing the old
    roof
    6 Floor. Remove all broken areas.
    7 Add a screed of around 3" of ready-mix and level off.
    8 Job done
    Mr Alun Davies, Jul 1, 2006
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  3. Guest


    > 1 Measure the windows size using the actual hole sizes that exists less
    > 5mm.
    > 2 Go to a local Double Glazing company and ask them to make the windows.
    > 3 Install windows into a simple 4" X 2" frame made and screwed to the
    > inside of the panels with a 1" overlap at the edges, mastic up around the
    > edges to the concrete (IE 3" of the 4x2 hidden and 1 " showing for screwing
    > the window to).
    > 4 While at the Double Glazing firm or at a good builders merchants ask
    > about double wall clear acrylic roof sheet
    > 5 Fit said sheets to existing framework after carefully removing the old
    > roof
    > 6 Floor. Remove all broken areas.
    > 7 Add a screed of around 3" of ready-mix and level off.
    > 8 Job done


    Thanks...you make it sound easy. As I'm useless at anything DIY what
    would a builder or competent DIY'er charge to make the alterations you
    suggest. I'm guessing as the doors are knackered they can be made and
    replaced too.

    cheers
    , Jul 1, 2006
    #3
  4. Guest

    wrote:

    > Hi
    >
    > I have a old concrete built single garage that needs replacing. It has
    > a busted wooden door, broken windows and a leaking asbestos
    > roof....basically the thing leaks like anything and needs replacing.
    >
    > Is is possible to get someone to replace the windows, roof and door and
    > make the place waterproof as the main structure seems ok to me. If not
    > I was told a pre-cast garage might be the best option. I have no
    > knowledge of these so are they any good? What sort of cost would it be
    > to buy and install a pre-cast garage?
    >
    > thanks



    A pre-cast garage is what youve already got. I dont see any sense
    buying another if youve already got one thats ok :)

    Doors are cheap, repair or more likely replace.

    Windows: single glazed framed windows are quite cheap. Sheet glass
    attached with a few pins is much cheaper and sometimes good enough.

    Roofing: if some sheets are broken, those can probably be replaced, or
    even repaired if youre wiling to climb up and do it yourself. Drill and
    fix repair plates then gloop it with tarry stuff on the outside.

    If the whole roof is a shambles, replace the lot with roof material of
    your choice. Roofs arent so cheap, but theyre still a lot cheaper than
    roof plus walls plus assembly plus demolition plus skips. Choose from
    sheet wood and felt, fibre cement sheet (what youve got now but not
    asbestos now), corrugated iron, corrugated plastic, multilayer plastic
    sheeting (££), or even a tiled roof. If you choose felt, use decent
    stuff so it lasts.

    Bear in mind asbestos roofs usually last pretty well, so dont dismiss
    repairing the roof out of hand unless its really shot.


    NT
    , Jul 1, 2006
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  5. <> wrote:
    > Thanks...you make it sound easy. As I'm useless at anything DIY what
    > would a builder or competent DIY'er charge to make the alterations you
    > suggest. I'm guessing as the doors are knackered they can be made and
    > replaced too.
    >
    > cheers


    Impossible to say what the cost of materials and labour would be. Do you
    know of a local builder or handyman who your neighbours have used, and found
    to be honest and reliable, who can give you an estimate?
    Phil Anthropist, Jul 2, 2006
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  6. Phil L Guest

    wrote:
    > Hi
    >
    > I have a old concrete built single garage that needs replacing. It has
    > a busted wooden door, broken windows and a leaking asbestos
    > roof....basically the thing leaks like anything and needs replacing.
    >
    > Is is possible to get someone to replace the windows, roof and door


    Yes, any decent builder will do this.

    > and make the place waterproof as the main structure seems ok to me.
    > If not I was told a pre-cast garage might be the best option. I have
    > no knowledge of these so are they any good? What sort of cost would
    > it be to buy and install a pre-cast garage?
    >

    There's nothing wrong with the one you've got...is it actually used as a
    garage or is it a glorified shed like 90% of other 'garages'? - if it's a
    shed, you don't need an up and over door or wide doors to fit a car in, get
    a timber frame fitted with a panel in one side and a door in the other, if
    it is a garage then new up and overs aren't dear (less than £250)
    Total for door(s) less than £500 fitted

    Window - as stated by someone else, get a pvc one and fit it into the hole =
    £150

    Roof: sheets of 25mm plywood with torch on felt, a roofer will do this in a
    couple of hours if you buy the materials, total = about £500

    ....you can do it all for less than £1200, how much is a new garage? plus a
    skip for the old one, plus someone to remove it and someone to erect the new
    one?
    Phil L, Jul 2, 2006
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  7. Guest

    Phil L wrote:
    > wrote:
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > I have a old concrete built single garage that needs replacing. It has
    > > a busted wooden door, broken windows and a leaking asbestos
    > > roof....basically the thing leaks like anything and needs replacing.
    > >
    > > Is is possible to get someone to replace the windows, roof and door

    >
    > Yes, any decent builder will do this.
    >
    > > and make the place waterproof as the main structure seems ok to me.
    > > If not I was told a pre-cast garage might be the best option. I have
    > > no knowledge of these so are they any good? What sort of cost would
    > > it be to buy and install a pre-cast garage?
    > >

    > There's nothing wrong with the one you've got...is it actually used as a
    > garage or is it a glorified shed like 90% of other 'garages'? - if it's a
    > shed, you don't need an up and over door or wide doors to fit a car in, get
    > a timber frame fitted with a panel in one side and a door in the other, if
    > it is a garage then new up and overs aren't dear (less than £250)
    > Total for door(s) less than £500 fitted
    >
    > Window - as stated by someone else, get a pvc one and fit it into the hole =
    > £150
    >
    > Roof: sheets of 25mm plywood with torch on felt, a roofer will do this ina
    > couple of hours if you buy the materials, total = about £500
    >
    > ...you can do it all for less than £1200, how much is a new garage? plus a
    > skip for the old one, plus someone to remove it and someone to erect the new
    > one?


    if the roofs repairable you could do the lot for under £100

    £500 for 2 hours labour sounds a tad steep btw. For that much you
    could use fibre cement again, will last as long as a few felt roofs.


    NT
    , Jul 2, 2006
    #7
  8. Phil L Guest

    wrote:
    > Phil L wrote:
    >> wrote:
    >>> Hi
    >>>
    >>> I have a old concrete built single garage that needs replacing. It
    >>> has a busted wooden door, broken windows and a leaking asbestos
    >>> roof....basically the thing leaks like anything and needs replacing.
    >>>
    >>> Is is possible to get someone to replace the windows, roof and door

    >>
    >> Yes, any decent builder will do this.
    >>
    >>> and make the place waterproof as the main structure seems ok to me.
    >>> If not I was told a pre-cast garage might be the best option. I have
    >>> no knowledge of these so are they any good? What sort of cost would
    >>> it be to buy and install a pre-cast garage?
    >>>

    >> There's nothing wrong with the one you've got...is it actually used
    >> as a garage or is it a glorified shed like 90% of other 'garages'? -
    >> if it's a shed, you don't need an up and over door or wide doors to
    >> fit a car in, get a timber frame fitted with a panel in one side and
    >> a door in the other, if it is a garage then new up and overs aren't
    >> dear (less than £250)
    >> Total for door(s) less than £500 fitted
    >>
    >> Window - as stated by someone else, get a pvc one and fit it into
    >> the hole = £150
    >>
    >> Roof: sheets of 25mm plywood with torch on felt, a roofer will do
    >> this in a couple of hours if you buy the materials, total = about
    >> £500
    >>
    >> ...you can do it all for less than £1200, how much is a new garage?
    >> plus a skip for the old one, plus someone to remove it and someone
    >> to erect the new one?

    >
    > if the roofs repairable you could do the lot for under £100
    >
    > £500 for 2 hours labour sounds a tad steep btw. For that much you
    > could use fibre cement again, will last as long as a few felt roofs.
    >


    The £500 was for materials and labour, bearing in mind that we don't know
    the condition of the joists, facia boards/gutters etc....I was just giving
    him a ballpark figure
    Phil L, Jul 4, 2006
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