Natural Gas Excess Flow Valve?

Discussion in 'HVAC' started by Oscar_Lives, Oct 20, 2004.

  1. Oscar_Lives

    Oscar_Lives Guest

    Does anyone know anything about EFVs and if I should install one? Benefits?

    My natural gas utility has offered me the opportunity to install an Excess
    Flow Valve (EFV) on the gas supply line to my house. This valve is supposed
    to "automatically restrict the flow of natural gas if the service line
    breaks outside the home".

    The installation charge is $65, but there is a "maintenance charge" of $900
    if it ever breaks or needs to be removed.

    It appears that this is an optional component-- I can either request one or
    not.

    Does anyone know anything about these EFVs and if I should request one?



    Here is what they have to say about it:

    "Excess Flow Valve

    The Company shall provide written notice of the benefits and

    availability of Excess Flow Valves (EFV) in accordance with the

    United States Department of Transportation Regulation 49 CFR

    Part 192.383.

    Installation of an EFV shall be made by the Company in the case

    of a new service line or a scheduled replacement service line,

    upon the customer's request and upon payment by the customer of

    the Installation Charge stated below. Installation of an EFV

    where the service line is not a new or scheduled replacement

    service line shall be available only upon the customer's

    request and payment of the below-stated Maintenance Charge.

    Installation of an EFV shall only be available where service is

    provided to a residential single family dwelling served from a

    delivery system with a pressure of ten (10) pounds per square

    inch or greater throughout the year, and where the service line

    is connected directly to the gas distribution main.

    Installation Charqe: $65.00 per EFV installation

    Maintenance Charge: $900.00

    The Maintenance Charge is for the repair, removal or

    replacement of an EFV at a' premises. The Maintenance Charge

    shall be paid by the customer who requested installation of the

    EFV at that premises, if that customer still takes service at

    that premises. The Maintenance Charge is based on excavation

    and construction costs under unobstructed surface and soil

    conditions (i.e. sod, sidewalks, and pavement). Additional

    costs due to obstructed surface conditions (i.e. buildings and

    fences) and underground conflicts (i.e. other utility lines and

    sprinkler systems) will be charged to the customer. Prior to

    the repair, removal or replacement of an EFV, the Company shall

    make a reasonable attempt to inform the customer of any

    additional charge due to known obstructions.

    'Indicates Addition."
     
    Oscar_Lives, Oct 20, 2004
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  2. Oscar_Lives

    Oscar_Lives Guest

    OOPS-- meant to post at alt.home.repair.


    "Oscar_Lives" <> wrote in message
    news:KmBdd.286247$D%.37560@attbi_s51...
    > Does anyone know anything about EFVs and if I should install one?
    > Benefits?
    >
    > My natural gas utility has offered me the opportunity to install an Excess
    > Flow Valve (EFV) on the gas supply line to my house. This valve is
    > supposed to "automatically restrict the flow of natural gas if the service
    > line breaks outside the home".
    >
    > The installation charge is $65, but there is a "maintenance charge" of
    > $900 if it ever breaks or needs to be removed.
    >
    > It appears that this is an optional component-- I can either request one
    > or not.
    >
    > Does anyone know anything about these EFVs and if I should request one?
    >
    >
    >
    > Here is what they have to say about it:
    >
    > "Excess Flow Valve
    >
    > The Company shall provide written notice of the benefits and
    >
    > availability of Excess Flow Valves (EFV) in accordance with the
    >
    > United States Department of Transportation Regulation 49 CFR
    >
    > Part 192.383.
    >
    > Installation of an EFV shall be made by the Company in the case
    >
    > of a new service line or a scheduled replacement service line,
    >
    > upon the customer's request and upon payment by the customer of
    >
    > the Installation Charge stated below. Installation of an EFV
    >
    > where the service line is not a new or scheduled replacement
    >
    > service line shall be available only upon the customer's
    >
    > request and payment of the below-stated Maintenance Charge.
    >
    > Installation of an EFV shall only be available where service is
    >
    > provided to a residential single family dwelling served from a
    >
    > delivery system with a pressure of ten (10) pounds per square
    >
    > inch or greater throughout the year, and where the service line
    >
    > is connected directly to the gas distribution main.
    >
    > Installation Charqe: $65.00 per EFV installation
    >
    > Maintenance Charge: $900.00
    >
    > The Maintenance Charge is for the repair, removal or
    >
    > replacement of an EFV at a' premises. The Maintenance Charge
    >
    > shall be paid by the customer who requested installation of the
    >
    > EFV at that premises, if that customer still takes service at
    >
    > that premises. The Maintenance Charge is based on excavation
    >
    > and construction costs under unobstructed surface and soil
    >
    > conditions (i.e. sod, sidewalks, and pavement). Additional
    >
    > costs due to obstructed surface conditions (i.e. buildings and
    >
    > fences) and underground conflicts (i.e. other utility lines and
    >
    > sprinkler systems) will be charged to the customer. Prior to
    >
    > the repair, removal or replacement of an EFV, the Company shall
    >
    > make a reasonable attempt to inform the customer of any
    >
    > additional charge due to known obstructions.
    >
    > 'Indicates Addition."
    >
    >
     
    Oscar_Lives, Oct 20, 2004
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  3. On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:09:46 GMT, "Oscar_Lives" <>
    wrote:

    >Does anyone know anything about EFVs and if I should install one? Benefits?
    >
    >My natural gas utility has offered me the opportunity to install an Excess
    >Flow Valve (EFV) on the gas supply line to my house. This valve is supposed
    >to "automatically restrict the flow of natural gas if the service line
    >breaks outside the home".
    >
    >The installation charge is $65, but there is a "maintenance charge" of $900
    >if it ever breaks or needs to be removed.


    Do they provide the vaseline ?



    Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
    'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'

    HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
    Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
    Free Temperature / Pressure charts for 38 Ref's http://pmilligan.net/pmtherm/
     
    pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com, Oct 21, 2004
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  4. Oscar_Lives

    Oscar_Lives Guest

    <pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:09:46 GMT, "Oscar_Lives" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Does anyone know anything about EFVs and if I should install one?
    >>Benefits?
    >>
    >>My natural gas utility has offered me the opportunity to install an Excess
    >>Flow Valve (EFV) on the gas supply line to my house. This valve is
    >>supposed
    >>to "automatically restrict the flow of natural gas if the service line
    >>breaks outside the home".
    >>
    >>The installation charge is $65, but there is a "maintenance charge" of
    >>$900
    >>if it ever breaks or needs to be removed.

    >
    > Do they provide the vaseline ?
    >


    Hell no. They are in cahoots with the fricken cable TV, electric and phone
    companies. Those bastards have wires running to my house that suck the
    money right out of my checkbook.







    >
    >
    > Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
    > 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
    >
    > HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
    > Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
    > Free Temperature / Pressure charts for 38 Ref's
    > http://pmilligan.net/pmtherm/
     
    Oscar_Lives, Oct 21, 2004
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  5. Oscar_Lives

    TURTLE Guest

    "Oscar_Lives" <> wrote in message
    news:ibFdd.278862$MQ5.186655@attbi_s52...
    >
    > <pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:09:46 GMT, "Oscar_Lives" <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Does anyone know anything about EFVs and if I should install one? Benefits?
    >>>
    >>>My natural gas utility has offered me the opportunity to install an Excess
    >>>Flow Valve (EFV) on the gas supply line to my house. This valve is supposed
    >>>to "automatically restrict the flow of natural gas if the service line
    >>>breaks outside the home".
    >>>
    >>>The installation charge is $65, but there is a "maintenance charge" of $900
    >>>if it ever breaks or needs to be removed.

    >>
    >> Do they provide the vaseline ?
    >>

    >
    > Hell no. They are in cahoots with the fricken cable TV, electric and phone
    > companies. Those bastards have wires running to my house that suck the money
    > right out of my checkbook.
    >


    This is Turtle.

    Here in town they are a standard issue built into the regulator by the gas
    meter. If you have a gas pressure regulator by your gas meter . You have one
    aleady. If you turn on your gas valve too fast it will slam shut the regulator
    and stop the gas flow.

    TURTLE
     
    TURTLE, Oct 21, 2004
    #5
  6. Oscar_Lives

    Don Ocean Guest

    pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:

    > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:09:46 GMT, "Oscar_Lives" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Does anyone know anything about EFVs and if I should install one? Benefits?
    >>
    >>My natural gas utility has offered me the opportunity to install an Excess
    >>Flow Valve (EFV) on the gas supply line to my house. This valve is supposed
    >>to "automatically restrict the flow of natural gas if the service line
    >>breaks outside the home".
    >>
    >>The installation charge is $65, but there is a "maintenance charge" of $900
    >>if it ever breaks or needs to be removed.

    >
    >
    > Do they provide the vaseline ?


    Can you also purchase the optional London Bridge? ;-p


    >
    >
    >
    > Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
    > 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
    >
    > HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
    > Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
    > Free Temperature / Pressure charts for 38 Ref's http://pmilligan.net/pmtherm/
     
    Don Ocean, Oct 21, 2004
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