Moss on roof copper ridge supplier neede

Discussion in 'Misc DIY' started by David, Feb 13, 2005.

  1. David

    David Guest

    Hi,
    I have a problem with moss growing on my bungalow roof. Having read many
    articles on the use of copper strip to combat the problem, I would like to
    give it a go. My roof is a doddle to access and walk about on, so I'm
    looking for a supplier only of copper ridge, or at least a supplier of
    copper strip ( probably 30 mm wide by a few mm thick and around 100 metres
    or so).The copper needs to be reasonably pure to work best.
    I've searched as best I can but other than strip mill supplies I've drawn a
    blank. Anybody got any addresses I could try?

    thanks,

    David
     
    David, Feb 13, 2005
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    tony green Guest

    "David" <> wrote in message
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    > Hi,
    > I have a problem with moss growing on my bungalow roof. Having read

    many
    > articles on the use of copper strip to combat the problem, I would like to
    > give it a go. My roof is a doddle to access and walk about on, so I'm
    > looking for a supplier only of copper ridge, or at least a supplier of
    > copper strip ( probably 30 mm wide by a few mm thick and around 100 metres
    > or so).The copper needs to be reasonably pure to work best.
    > I've searched as best I can but other than strip mill supplies I've drawn

    a
    > blank. Anybody got any addresses I could try?
    >
    > thanks,
    >
    > David
    >
    >

    Try a lighting conductor contractor
     
    tony green, Feb 13, 2005
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  3. David

    David Guest

    Still unable to get a supply other than bulk, thanks anyway.
    "tony green" <> wrote in message
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    > "David" <> wrote in message
    > news:cuo50m$2os$...
    > > Hi,
    > > I have a problem with moss growing on my bungalow roof. Having read

    > many
    > > articles on the use of copper strip to combat the problem, I would like

    to
    > > give it a go. My roof is a doddle to access and walk about on, so I'm
    > > looking for a supplier only of copper ridge, or at least a supplier of
    > > copper strip ( probably 30 mm wide by a few mm thick and around 100

    metres
    > > or so).The copper needs to be reasonably pure to work best.
    > > I've searched as best I can but other than strip mill supplies I've

    drawn
    > a
    > > blank. Anybody got any addresses I could try?
    > >
    > > thanks,
    > >
    > > David
    > >
    > >

    > Try a lighting conductor contractor
    >
    >
     
    David, Feb 16, 2005
    #3
  4. "David" <> wrote in message
    news:cuv6ad$7vh$...
    > Still unable to get a supply other than bulk, thanks anyway.
    > "tony green" <> wrote in message
    > news:fYMPd.1633$...
    >> "David" <> wrote in message
    >> news:cuo50m$2os$...
    >> > Hi,
    >> > I have a problem with moss growing on my bungalow roof. Having read

    >> many
    >> > articles on the use of copper strip to combat the problem, I would like

    > to
    >> > give it a go. My roof is a doddle to access and walk about on, so I'm
    >> > looking for a supplier only of copper ridge, or at least a supplier of
    >> > copper strip ( probably 30 mm wide by a few mm thick and around 100

    > metres
    >> > or so).The copper needs to be reasonably pure to work best.
    >> > I've searched as best I can but other than strip mill supplies I've

    > drawn
    >> a
    >> > blank. Anybody got any addresses I could try?
    >> >
    >> > thanks,
    >> >
    >> > David
    >> >
    >> >

    >> Try a lighting conductor contractor

    I once hung copper stripped from 2.5mm mains wire on the roof ridge in order
    to reduce moss on my last house. Did reduce on the tiles nearest to the wire
    but bugger all reduction else where, so not too sure if copper really works.
    Went a nice shade of green after a while.
     
    Ian Middleton, Feb 16, 2005
    #4
  5. David

    David Guest

    Thanks, Ian. I have read various articles on the use of copper (and zinc)
    most suggest that copper will work, but has to be reasonably pure, and does
    take a few years. I don't want to get a contractor in due to the cost for
    something which I am perfectly capable of safely doing myself,

    regards,

    David

    "Ian Middleton" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > "David" <> wrote in message
    > news:cuv6ad$7vh$...
    > > Still unable to get a supply other than bulk, thanks anyway.
    > > "tony green" <> wrote in message
    > > news:fYMPd.1633$...
    > >> "David" <> wrote in message
    > >> news:cuo50m$2os$...
    > >> > Hi,
    > >> > I have a problem with moss growing on my bungalow roof. Having

    read
    > >> many
    > >> > articles on the use of copper strip to combat the problem, I would

    like
    > > to
    > >> > give it a go. My roof is a doddle to access and walk about on, so I'm
    > >> > looking for a supplier only of copper ridge, or at least a supplier

    of
    > >> > copper strip ( probably 30 mm wide by a few mm thick and around 100

    > > metres
    > >> > or so).The copper needs to be reasonably pure to work best.
    > >> > I've searched as best I can but other than strip mill supplies I've

    > > drawn
    > >> a
    > >> > blank. Anybody got any addresses I could try?
    > >> >
    > >> > thanks,
    > >> >
    > >> > David
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> Try a lighting conductor contractor

    > I once hung copper stripped from 2.5mm mains wire on the roof ridge in

    order
    > to reduce moss on my last house. Did reduce on the tiles nearest to the

    wire
    > but bugger all reduction else where, so not too sure if copper really

    works.
    > Went a nice shade of green after a while.
    >
    >
     
    David, Feb 16, 2005
    #5
  6. David

    tony green Guest

    "David" <> wrote in message
    news:cuvcns$bfp$...
    > Thanks, Ian. I have read various articles on the use of copper (and zinc)
    > most suggest that copper will work, but has to be reasonably pure, and

    does
    > take a few years. I don't want to get a contractor in due to the cost for
    > something which I am perfectly capable of safely doing myself,
    >
    > regards,
    >
    > David
    >
    > "Ian Middleton" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > "David" <> wrote in message
    > > news:cuv6ad$7vh$...
    > > > Still unable to get a supply other than bulk, thanks anyway.
    > > > "tony green" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:fYMPd.1633$...
    > > >> "David" <> wrote in message
    > > >> news:cuo50m$2os$...
    > > >> > Hi,
    > > >> > I have a problem with moss growing on my bungalow roof. Having

    > read
    > > >> many
    > > >> > articles on the use of copper strip to combat the problem, I would

    > like
    > > > to
    > > >> > give it a go. My roof is a doddle to access and walk about on, so

    I'm
    > > >> > looking for a supplier only of copper ridge, or at least a supplier

    > of
    > > >> > copper strip ( probably 30 mm wide by a few mm thick and around 100
    > > > metres
    > > >> > or so).The copper needs to be reasonably pure to work best.
    > > >> > I've searched as best I can but other than strip mill supplies

    I've
    > > > drawn
    > > >> a
    > > >> > blank. Anybody got any addresses I could try?
    > > >> >
    > > >> > thanks,
    > > >> >
    > > >> > David
    > > >> >
    > > >> >
    > > >> Try a lighting conductor contractor

    > > I once hung copper stripped from 2.5mm mains wire on the roof ridge in

    > order
    > > to reduce moss on my last house. Did reduce on the tiles nearest to the

    > wire
    > > but bugger all reduction else where, so not too sure if copper really

    > works.
    > > Went a nice shade of green after a while.
    > >
    > >

    >
    >

    David

    The reasons why moss grows on a roof. The roof tiles are either made of
    concrete or hand made clay tiles. In the case of concrete tiles, after
    about 15 to 20 years, the cement starts to detereate, releasing the sand
    gravel and in conjunction with any trees close by is a perfect mixture for
    vegetable growth. This is more prone on flat pitch roofs down to a 30 to 15
    degrees. Hand made tiles hold water, hence moss growth. If you can walk on
    the roof it can be cleaned, using a flat blade garden hoe and jet washer.
    One word of warning if you use a jet wash, never point it up the roof or you
    will flood the attic. Start from the top and point the jet towards the eave.
    You will never stop moss from growing once its started, it will need to
    repeat cleaning every year.
    The only way is to have the roof tiles taken of and replaced with new.

    Keith Nottm roof Slater and tiler 50 years+
     
    tony green, Feb 16, 2005
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  7. David

    David Guest

    Thanks Tony. The tiles are indeed concrete and some 30 years old, although
    in very good condition. Roof pitch is shallow and I have plenty trees around
    which as you mention are perfect growing conditions. I think when the
    weather gets a bit better I'll follow your advice and get my pressure washer
    out. Do you think that it's worthwhile using mosskiller to help slow it's
    return?

    regards,

    David



    > David
    >
    > The reasons why moss grows on a roof. The roof tiles are eith

    er made of
    > concrete or hand made clay tiles. In the case of concrete tiles, after
    > about 15 to 20 years, the cement starts to detereate, releasing the sand
    > gravel and in conjunction with any trees close by is a perfect mixture for
    > vegetable growth. This is more prone on flat pitch roofs down to a 30 to

    15
    > degrees. Hand made tiles hold water, hence moss growth. If you can walk

    on
    > the roof it can be cleaned, using a flat blade garden hoe and jet washer.
    > One word of warning if you use a jet wash, never point it up the roof or

    you
    > will flood the attic. Start from the top and point the jet towards the

    eave.
    > You will never stop moss from growing once its started, it will need to
    > repeat cleaning every year.
    > The only way is to have the roof tiles taken of and replaced with new.
    >
    > Keith Nottm roof Slater and tiler 50 years+
    >
    >
     
    David, Feb 17, 2005
    #7
  8. David

    tony green Guest

    "David" <> wrote in message
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    > Thanks Tony. The tiles are indeed concrete and some 30 years old, although
    > in very good condition. Roof pitch is shallow and I have plenty trees

    around
    > which as you mention are perfect growing conditions. I think when the
    > weather gets a bit better I'll follow your advice and get my pressure

    washer
    > out. Do you think that it's worthwhile using mosskiller to help slow it's
    > return?
    >
    > regards,
    >
    > David
    >
    >
    >
    > > David
    > >
    > > The reasons why moss grows on a roof. The roof tiles are eith

    > er made of
    > > concrete or hand made clay tiles. In the case of concrete tiles, after
    > > about 15 to 20 years, the cement starts to detereate, releasing the

    sand
    > > gravel and in conjunction with any trees close by is a perfect mixture

    for
    > > vegetable growth. This is more prone on flat pitch roofs down to a 30

    to
    > 15
    > > degrees. Hand made tiles hold water, hence moss growth. If you can

    walk
    > on
    > > the roof it can be cleaned, using a flat blade garden hoe and jet

    washer.
    > > One word of warning if you use a jet wash, never point it up the roof or

    > you
    > > will flood the attic. Start from the top and point the jet towards the

    > eave.
    > > You will never stop moss from growing once its started, it will need to
    > > repeat cleaning every year.
    > > The only way is to have the roof tiles taken of and replaced with new.
    > >
    > > Keith Nottm roof Slater and tiler 50 years+


    From my experience of cleaning moss off a roof, you have to clean every bit
    out, form in between the side over laps and in the case of double lap hand
    made tiles, in between every single joint. Its a job I don't like and
    usually refuse to under take. The trouble is it re accurse. Most of the
    grit that moss grows in is hidden under the side channel.
    As to the use of moss killer, I'm not sure if this is allowed, do to the
    chemical the moss killer contains as the it all finishes in the fresh water
    drain which goes straight into water courses. Best way is to scrape it off
    and out with a garden hoe or small pointing trowel then jet wash off. Its a
    long and tedious job. Be careful to keep an eye on how much moss goes down
    the rainwater down pipe, don't block that or the main drain.

    Regards Keith For the record the name is Keith. Tony Green is a factious
    name put in by mistake.
     
    tony green, Feb 17, 2005
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  9. David

    David Guest

    Thanks for the advice, Keith. At least access and working on my roof is easy
    as it looks as if I could be up there for quite a while!

    regards,

    David

    "tony green" <> wrote in message
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    >
    > "David" <> wrote in message
    > news:cv2a41$dtm$...
    > > Thanks Tony. The tiles are indeed concrete and some 30 years old,

    although
    > > in very good condition. Roof pitch is shallow and I have plenty trees

    > around
    > > which as you mention are perfect growing conditions. I think when the
    > > weather gets a bit better I'll follow your advice and get my pressure

    > washer
    > > out. Do you think that it's worthwhile using mosskiller to help slow

    it's
    > > return?
    > >
    > > regards,
    > >
    > > David
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > > David
    > > >
    > > > The reasons why moss grows on a roof. The roof tiles are eith

    > > er made of
    > > > concrete or hand made clay tiles. In the case of concrete tiles,

    after
    > > > about 15 to 20 years, the cement starts to detereate, releasing the

    > sand
    > > > gravel and in conjunction with any trees close by is a perfect mixture

    > for
    > > > vegetable growth. This is more prone on flat pitch roofs down to a 30

    > to
    > > 15
    > > > degrees. Hand made tiles hold water, hence moss growth. If you can

    > walk
    > > on
    > > > the roof it can be cleaned, using a flat blade garden hoe and jet

    > washer.
    > > > One word of warning if you use a jet wash, never point it up the roof

    or
    > > you
    > > > will flood the attic. Start from the top and point the jet towards the

    > > eave.
    > > > You will never stop moss from growing once its started, it will need

    to
    > > > repeat cleaning every year.
    > > > The only way is to have the roof tiles taken of and replaced with new.
    > > >
    > > > Keith Nottm roof Slater and tiler 50 years+

    >
    > From my experience of cleaning moss off a roof, you have to clean every

    bit
    > out, form in between the side over laps and in the case of double lap hand


    > made tiles, in between every single joint. Its a job I don't like and
    > usually refuse to under take. The trouble is it re accurse. Most of the
    > grit that moss grows in is hidden under the side channel.
    > As to the use of moss killer, I'm not sure if this is allowed, do to the
    > chemical the moss killer contains as the it all finishes in the fresh

    water
    > drain which goes straight into water courses. Best way is to scrape it

    off
    > and out with a garden hoe or small pointing trowel then jet wash off. Its

    a
    > long and tedious job. Be careful to keep an eye on how much moss goes down
    > the rainwater down pipe, don't block that or the main drain.
    >
    > Regards Keith For the record the name is Keith. Tony Green is a factious
    > name put in by mistake.
    >
    >
     
    David, Feb 18, 2005
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  10. "David" <> wrote in message
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    > Hi,
    > I have a problem with moss growing on my bungalow roof. Having read
    > many
    > articles on the use of copper strip to combat the problem, I would like to
    > give it a go. My roof is a doddle to access and walk about on, so I'm
    > looking for a supplier only of copper ridge, or at least a supplier of
    > copper strip ( probably 30 mm wide by a few mm thick and around 100 metres
    > or so).The copper needs to be reasonably pure to work best.
    > I've searched as best I can but other than strip mill supplies I've drawn
    > a
    > blank. Anybody got any addresses I could try?
    >
    > thanks,
    >
    > David
    >
    >

    I wouldn't advise power washing concrete tiles that are 30 years old,(
    brother inlaw did this then had to have the tiles coated with Aquaseal to
    seal them) to kill the moss either a propriety moss killer sprayed on or a
    solution of copper sulphate if you can still get the copper sulphate
    crystals. Then a couple of strips of copper earthing wire wound together
    along each side of the roof ridge.
    Cyril
     
    Cyril Bonnett, Feb 19, 2005
    #10
  11. David

    G Cadman Guest

    As access to the roof is easy could you not just go up there with a pressure
    washer and anti fungal agent and remove it that way.
    G

    "David" <> wrote in message
    news:cuo50m$2os$...
    > Hi,
    > I have a problem with moss growing on my bungalow roof. Having read

    many
    > articles on the use of copper strip to combat the problem, I would like to
    > give it a go. My roof is a doddle to access and walk about on, so I'm
    > looking for a supplier only of copper ridge, or at least a supplier of
    > copper strip ( probably 30 mm wide by a few mm thick and around 100 metres
    > or so).The copper needs to be reasonably pure to work best.
    > I've searched as best I can but other than strip mill supplies I've drawn

    a
    > blank. Anybody got any addresses I could try?
    >
    > thanks,
    >
    > David
    >
    >
     
    G Cadman, Feb 20, 2005
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  12. David

    spr77

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    Moss on Roof

    STUART PENROSE21 Mar 2013 - Public
    Moss on the roof a growing problem?

    The question is it a problem and how serious is it.
    Some roofing materials cope with moss better that others and should be removed or controlled.
    Firstly, let’s deal with the power wash and treatment; under no circumstances should you let someone near your roof with a power washer!
    If your roof coverings are manufactured from concrete or cement fibre the power washer will blow holes in the structure, remove the protective coating and the moss will return twice as bad as before.
    There is also a very good chance of loosening fixings, dislodging flashings and cement bedding.
    Most houses built in the 70s and 80s and almost in every case prior to that will have a reliance on natural air movement through the roofing materials to assist in combating condensation, if the channels become blocked with moss and algae this will reduce the air flow and can lead to damp forming. The inclusion of air vents can combat this.
    North facing elevations will always have greater concentrations of moss due to the lack of sunlight, damp and dark conditions, moss thrives.
    Moss spores absorb water and retain the moisture, during freezing temperatures this expands and can crack the roof tiles.

    Chemical sprays
    Put simply, a short term solution, to a long term problem.

    How effective is Copper?
    Copper when exposed to moisture produces copper sulphate, it is antimicrobial, inhibiting the growth of bacteria, moulds, algae and killing moss.
    When using copper for this purpose in roof elevations there is not a “one size fits all “approach , consideration must be given to the geography of the building the proximity of trees, shrubs and sunlight exposure. Copper is not an overnight fix. Copper should be seen as an ongoing maintenance product, the longer it is exposed the more effective it becomes. It will reduce moss growth year on year, and with our air becoming more pollutant free, reduction of fossil fuels, lower emissions, healthy air more moss.
    We offer free advice and can recommend the best product matched to your project.
    Talk to us first, copper anti moss system is not suitable to every roof construction.

    Stuart Penrose Copper Ridge Systems
     
    spr77, Mar 23, 2013
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