Mold on window

Discussion in 'Home Repair' started by Just me, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. Just me

    Just me Guest

    I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    outside looking in.

    So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows. And
    yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL

    Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?

    Thanks
     
    Just me, Nov 7, 2011
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    harry Guest

    On Nov 7, 4:00 pm, Just me <> wrote:
    > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > outside looking in.
    >
    > So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    > panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows. And
    > yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL
    >
    > Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?
    >
    > Thanks


    Remove glass, clean, replace. Simple.
     
    harry, Nov 7, 2011
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    Just me Guest

    On Nov 7, 3:17 pm, harry <> wrote:
    > On Nov 7, 4:00 pm, Just me <> wrote:
    >
    > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    > > panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows. And
    > > yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL

    >
    > > Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?

    >
    > > Thanks

    >
    > Remove glass, clean, replace.  Simple.



    The glass cannot be removed.
     
    Just me, Nov 7, 2011
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  4. "Just me" <> wrote in message
    news:...

    > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > outside looking in.

    >
    > The glass cannot be removed.


    What makes you think it is mould (rather than the way the
    interior rubber cushioning reacts to sunlight)? The
    windows were sealed at the factory and it is not likely
    mould spores both were present and could find nutritive
    materials within the seal.

    --
    Don Phillipson
    Carlsbad Springs
    (Ottawa, Canada)
     
    Don Phillipson, Nov 7, 2011
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    ransley Guest

    On Nov 7, 10:00 am, Just me <> wrote:
    > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > outside looking in.
    >
    > So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    > panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows. And
    > yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL
    >
    > Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?
    >
    > Thanks


    Use laundry bleach in a spray bottle
     
    ransley, Nov 7, 2011
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    Just me Guest

    On Nov 7, 3:49 pm, "Don Phillipson" <> wrote:
    > "Just me" <> wrote in message
    >
    > news:...
    >
    > > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > The glass cannot be removed.

    >
    > What makes you think it is mould (rather than the way the
    > interior rubber cushioning reacts to sunlight)?   The
    > windows were sealed at the factory and it is not likely
    > mould spores both were present and could find nutritive
    > materials within the seal.
    >
    > --
    > Don Phillipson
    > Carlsbad Springs
    > (Ottawa, Canada)




    If it were reacting to sunlight, I would expect the north facing
    windows to have none - but they do. And since the growth is on the
    exterior side, it's sheltered from the sun (there is none on the
    interior pane anywhere - which is exposed to sunlight). It's also only
    occurring on the bottom portion and at no other part of the window, so
    if it were sun, it would affect the entire window equally. The colour
    of the growth is green and being in a sheltered part of the window,
    with a wet climate, it's not hard to determine it's mold or some form
    of growth that shouldn't be there.

    The only suggestion I've gotten is to use clear caulk on the lip of
    the window on the outside since the water is obviously getting in
    behind the vinyl. Barring any other suggestions, I will try that. If I
    can cut off the supply of moisture, it should kill what is growing
    there.
     
    Just me, Nov 7, 2011
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    Robert Macy Guest

    On Nov 7, 12:25 pm, Just me <> wrote:
    > On Nov 7, 3:49 pm, "Don Phillipson" <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > "Just me" <> wrote in message

    >
    > >news:....

    >
    > > > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > > The glass cannot be removed.

    >
    > > What makes you think it is mould (rather than the way the
    > > interior rubber cushioning reacts to sunlight)?   The
    > > windows were sealed at the factory and it is not likely
    > > mould spores both were present and could find nutritive
    > > materials within the seal.

    >
    > > --
    > > Don Phillipson
    > > Carlsbad Springs
    > > (Ottawa, Canada)

    >
    > If it were reacting to sunlight, I would expect the north facing
    > windows to have none - but they do. And since the growth is on the
    > exterior side, it's sheltered from the sun (there is none on the
    > interior pane anywhere - which is exposed to sunlight). It's also only
    > occurring on the bottom portion and at no other part of the window, so
    > if it were sun, it would affect the entire window equally. The colour
    > of the growth is green and being in a sheltered part of the window,
    > with a wet climate, it's not hard to determine it's mold or some form
    > of growth that shouldn't be there.
    >
    > The only suggestion I've gotten is to use clear caulk on the lip of
    > the window on the outside since the water is obviously getting in
    > behind the vinyl. Barring any other suggestions, I will try that. If I
    > can cut off the supply of moisture, it should kill what is growing
    > there.


    Have the mold tested.
     
    Robert Macy, Nov 7, 2011
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    Just me Guest

    On Nov 7, 5:24 pm, Robert Macy <> wrote:
    > On Nov 7, 12:25 pm, Just me <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Nov 7, 3:49 pm, "Don Phillipson" <> wrote:

    >
    > > > "Just me" <> wrote in message

    >
    > > >news:....

    >
    > > > > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > > > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > > > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > > > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > > > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing whenI'm
    > > > > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > > > The glass cannot be removed.

    >
    > > > What makes you think it is mould (rather than the way the
    > > > interior rubber cushioning reacts to sunlight)?   The
    > > > windows were sealed at the factory and it is not likely
    > > > mould spores both were present and could find nutritive
    > > > materials within the seal.

    >
    > > > --
    > > > Don Phillipson
    > > > Carlsbad Springs
    > > > (Ottawa, Canada)

    >
    > > If it were reacting to sunlight, I would expect the north facing
    > > windows to have none - but they do. And since the growth is on the
    > > exterior side, it's sheltered from the sun (there is none on the
    > > interior pane anywhere - which is exposed to sunlight). It's also only
    > > occurring on the bottom portion and at no other part of the window, so
    > > if it were sun, it would affect the entire window equally. The colour
    > > of the growth is green and being in a sheltered part of the window,
    > > with a wet climate, it's not hard to determine it's mold or some form
    > > of growth that shouldn't be there.

    >
    > > The only suggestion I've gotten is to use clear caulk on the lip of
    > > the window on the outside since the water is obviously getting in
    > > behind the vinyl. Barring any other suggestions, I will try that. If I
    > > can cut off the supply of moisture, it should kill what is growing
    > > there.

    >
    > Have the mold tested.



    It's not easily accessible. Even if I could, I see no reason to test
    it. It's on the exterior of the window so that it's not affecting the
    internal air quality.

    I just need to find a way to keep the moisture out so that it doesn't
    spread any farther. Soaking the area with the javex based solution
    then caulking it seems to be the only solution.
     
    Just me, Nov 7, 2011
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    hr(bob) Guest

    On Nov 7, 3:38 pm, Just me <> wrote:
    > On Nov 7, 5:24 pm, Robert Macy <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Nov 7, 12:25 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Nov 7, 3:49 pm, "Don Phillipson" <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > "Just me" <> wrote in message

    >
    > > > >news:...

    >
    > > > > > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > > > > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > > > > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > > > > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > > > > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > > > > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > > > > The glass cannot be removed.

    >
    > > > > What makes you think it is mould (rather than the way the
    > > > > interior rubber cushioning reacts to sunlight)?   The
    > > > > windows were sealed at the factory and it is not likely
    > > > > mould spores both were present and could find nutritive
    > > > > materials within the seal.

    >
    > > > > --
    > > > > Don Phillipson
    > > > > Carlsbad Springs
    > > > > (Ottawa, Canada)

    >
    > > > If it were reacting to sunlight, I would expect the north facing
    > > > windows to have none - but they do. And since the growth is on the
    > > > exterior side, it's sheltered from the sun (there is none on the
    > > > interior pane anywhere - which is exposed to sunlight). It's also only
    > > > occurring on the bottom portion and at no other part of the window, so
    > > > if it were sun, it would affect the entire window equally. The colour
    > > > of the growth is green and being in a sheltered part of the window,
    > > > with a wet climate, it's not hard to determine it's mold or some form
    > > > of growth that shouldn't be there.

    >
    > > > The only suggestion I've gotten is to use clear caulk on the lip of
    > > > the window on the outside since the water is obviously getting in
    > > > behind the vinyl. Barring any other suggestions, I will try that. If I
    > > > can cut off the supply of moisture, it should kill what is growing
    > > > there.

    >
    > > Have the mold tested.

    >
    > It's not easily accessible. Even if I could, I see no reason to test
    > it. It's on the exterior of the window so that it's not affecting the
    > internal air quality.
    >
    > I just need to find a way to keep the moisture out so that it doesn't
    > spread any farther. Soaking the area with the javex based solution
    > then caulking it seems to be the only solution.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    To start with, are you talking about thermopane windows, double-hung
    windows, with storm windows, or what?? Can you take a picture to show
    us?
     
    hr(bob) , Nov 7, 2011
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    Just me Guest

    On Nov 7, 6:49 pm, "hr(bob) " <>
    wrote:
    > On Nov 7, 3:38 pm, Just me <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Nov 7, 5:24 pm, Robert Macy <> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Nov 7, 12:25 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > On Nov 7, 3:49 pm, "Don Phillipson" <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > "Just me" <> wrote in message

    >
    > > > > >news:..com...

    >
    > > > > > > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > > > > > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > > > > > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > > > > > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from theinside
    > > > > > > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > > > > > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > > > > > The glass cannot be removed.

    >
    > > > > > What makes you think it is mould (rather than the way the
    > > > > > interior rubber cushioning reacts to sunlight)?   The
    > > > > > windows were sealed at the factory and it is not likely
    > > > > > mould spores both were present and could find nutritive
    > > > > > materials within the seal.

    >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Don Phillipson
    > > > > > Carlsbad Springs
    > > > > > (Ottawa, Canada)

    >
    > > > > If it were reacting to sunlight, I would expect the north facing
    > > > > windows to have none - but they do. And since the growth is on the
    > > > > exterior side, it's sheltered from the sun (there is none on the
    > > > > interior pane anywhere - which is exposed to sunlight). It's also only
    > > > > occurring on the bottom portion and at no other part of the window,so
    > > > > if it were sun, it would affect the entire window equally. The colour
    > > > > of the growth is green and being in a sheltered part of the window,
    > > > > with a wet climate, it's not hard to determine it's mold or some form
    > > > > of growth that shouldn't be there.

    >
    > > > > The only suggestion I've gotten is to use clear caulk on the lip of
    > > > > the window on the outside since the water is obviously getting in
    > > > > behind the vinyl. Barring any other suggestions, I will try that. If I
    > > > > can cut off the supply of moisture, it should kill what is growing
    > > > > there.

    >
    > > > Have the mold tested.

    >
    > > It's not easily accessible. Even if I could, I see no reason to test
    > > it. It's on the exterior of the window so that it's not affecting the
    > > internal air quality.

    >
    > > I just need to find a way to keep the moisture out so that it doesn't
    > > spread any farther. Soaking the area with the javex based solution
    > > then caulking it seems to be the only solution.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > To start with, are you talking about thermopane windows, double-hung
    > windows, with storm windows, or what?? Can you take a picture to show
    > us?




    As noted, they are double pane vinyl casement windows. Too dark right
    now for a picture.
     
    Just me, Nov 7, 2011
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    harry Guest

    On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, Just me <> wrote:
    > On Nov 7, 3:17 pm, harry <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Nov 7, 4:00 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > > So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    > > > panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows. And
    > > > yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL

    >
    > > > Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?

    >
    > > > Thanks

    >
    > > Remove glass, clean, replace.  Simple.

    >
    > The glass cannot be removed.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    So what happens if the glass gets broken? Complete new window?
     
    harry, Nov 8, 2011
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    Just me Guest

    On Nov 8, 4:21 am, harry <> wrote:
    > On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, Just me <> wrote:
    >
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    >
    >
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    >
    >
    > > On Nov 7, 3:17 pm, harry <> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Nov 7, 4:00 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > > > So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    > > > > panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows. And
    > > > > yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL

    >
    > > > > Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?

    >
    > > > > Thanks

    >
    > > > Remove glass, clean, replace.  Simple.

    >
    > > The glass cannot be removed.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > So what happens if the glass gets broken?  Complete new window?



    The pane physically being removed isn't the problem (for a
    professional). The problem is breaking the seal will release the
    insulating gas in between the panes. I believe the gas can be replaced
    but at a cost. If the glass is broken, the gas has escaped so you only
    have two options. Replace the window or replace the pane and get the
    gas injected (if it's possible). Replacing the window would probably
    not be cost prohibitive.

    I'm not going to break the seal trying to get at some mold that is on
    the exterior of the window.
     
    Just me, Nov 8, 2011
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    Ron Guest

    On Nov 7, 11:00 am, Just me <> wrote:
    > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > outside looking in.
    >
    > So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    > panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows. And
    > yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL
    >
    > Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?
    >
    > Thanks


    Squirt bottle with bleach and water.
     
    Ron, Nov 8, 2011
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    Just me Guest

    On Nov 8, 11:03 am, Ron <> wrote:
    > On Nov 7, 11:00 am, Just me <> wrote:
    >
    > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    > > panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows. And
    > > yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL

    >
    > > Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?

    >
    > > Thanks

    >
    > Squirt bottle with bleach and water.



    That seems to be the immediate answer. If the water can get in there
    to grow the stuff, the bleach can get in to kill it. Then a thin bead
    of caulk later to keep the water out.

    Thanks
     
    Just me, Nov 8, 2011
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    harry Guest

    On Nov 8, 1:16 pm, Just me <> wrote:
    > On Nov 8, 4:21 am, harry <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Nov 7, 3:17 pm, harry <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > On Nov 7, 4:00 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > > > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > > > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > > > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > > > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing whenI'm
    > > > > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > > > > So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    > > > > > panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows.And
    > > > > > yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL

    >
    > > > > > Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?

    >
    > > > > > Thanks

    >
    > > > > Remove glass, clean, replace.  Simple.

    >
    > > > The glass cannot be removed.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > So what happens if the glass gets broken?  Complete new window?

    >
    > The pane physically being removed isn't the problem (for a
    > professional). The problem is breaking the seal will release the
    > insulating gas in between the panes. I believe the gas can be replaced
    > but at a cost. If the glass is broken, the gas has escaped so you only
    > have two options. Replace the window or replace the pane and get the
    > gas injected (if it's possible). Replacing the window would probably
    > not be cost prohibitive.
    >
    > I'm not going to break the seal trying to get at some mold that is on
    > the exterior of the window.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    No it wont, the two glass sheets are joined together with a spacer/
    sealing compound. I takes only a few minutes to remove the sealed
    unit.
    They are held in by beads/plastic moulding and neoprene seals.
    On most, you prise the beads out with (say) a woodworkers chisel,
    starting on the longer sides in the centre.
    There are a few around where you have to remove the neoprene seal
    first.
    It is a trivial task. There may be spacers and security rivets inside
    the frame if the beads are external.
     
    harry, Nov 8, 2011
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    Ron Guest

    On Nov 8, 11:58 am, harry <> wrote:
    > On Nov 8, 1:16 pm, Just me <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Nov 8, 4:21 am, harry <> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > On Nov 7, 3:17 pm, harry <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > On Nov 7, 4:00 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > > > > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > > > > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > > > > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from the inside
    > > > > > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > > > > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > > > > > So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    > > > > > > panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows. And
    > > > > > > yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL

    >
    > > > > > > Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?

    >
    > > > > > > Thanks

    >
    > > > > > Remove glass, clean, replace.  Simple.

    >
    > > > > The glass cannot be removed.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > > So what happens if the glass gets broken?  Complete new window?

    >
    > > The pane physically being removed isn't the problem (for a
    > > professional). The problem is breaking the seal will release the
    > > insulating gas in between the panes. I believe the gas can be replaced
    > > but at a cost. If the glass is broken, the gas has escaped so you only
    > > have two options. Replace the window or replace the pane and get the
    > > gas injected (if it's possible). Replacing the window would probably
    > > not be cost prohibitive.

    >
    > > I'm not going to break the seal trying to get at some mold that is on
    > > the exterior of the window.

    >
    > No it wont, the two glass sheets are joined together with a spacer/
    > sealing compound. I takes only a few minutes to remove the sealed
    > unit.
    > They are held in by beads/plastic moulding and neoprene seals.
    > On most, you prise the beads out with (say) a woodworkers chisel,
    > starting on the longer sides in the centre.
    > There are a few around where you have to remove the neoprene seal
    > first.
    > It is a trivial task.  There may be spacers and security rivets inside
    > the frame if the beads are external.


    He doesn't need to remove the glass. He's already stated that the
    mildew/mold is between the outer piece of glass and the stop.

    Also, w/o knowing exactly what kind of window that he has, most likely
    the glass is also sealed to the inner frame...not just sitting there
    with only the stops to hold it in place.

    Spray bottle with a mixture of bleach and water or straight bleach
    will take care of the problem.
     
    Ron, Nov 8, 2011
    #16
  17. Just me

    Oren Guest

    On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:16:25 -0800 (PST), Ron <>
    wrote:

    >Also, w/o knowing exactly what kind of window that he has, most likely
    >the glass is also sealed to the inner frame...not just sitting there
    >with only the stops to hold it in place.
    >


    Exactly

    >Spray bottle with a mixture of bleach and water or straight bleach
    >will take care of the problem.
    >


    Simple place to start :-/
     
    Oren, Nov 8, 2011
    #17
  18. Just me

    harry Guest

    On Nov 8, 6:16 pm, Ron <> wrote:
    > On Nov 8, 11:58 am, harry <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Nov 8, 1:16 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Nov 8, 4:21 am, harry <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > On Nov 7, 3:17 pm, harry <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > > On Nov 7, 4:00 pm, Just me <> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > > > I just bought a ten year old house with air exchanger and just noticed
    > > > > > > > some mold on most of the windows. It doesn't look like it is between
    > > > > > > > the panes. It looks like it's between the outside of the exterior
    > > > > > > > glass and the vinyl border. I can see it looking out from theinside
    > > > > > > > (green against the white vinyl) but don't see the same thing when I'm
    > > > > > > > outside looking in.

    >
    > > > > > > > So, I don't think the seals are gone. The black rubber between the
    > > > > > > > panes looks clean. They are regular double pane casement windows. And
    > > > > > > > yes, we get a lot of rain here. LOL

    >
    > > > > > > > Anything I can do to get rid of the mold?

    >
    > > > > > > > Thanks

    >
    > > > > > > Remove glass, clean, replace.  Simple.

    >
    > > > > > The glass cannot be removed.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > > > So what happens if the glass gets broken?  Complete new window?

    >
    > > > The pane physically being removed isn't the problem (for a
    > > > professional). The problem is breaking the seal will release the
    > > > insulating gas in between the panes. I believe the gas can be replaced
    > > > but at a cost. If the glass is broken, the gas has escaped so you only
    > > > have two options. Replace the window or replace the pane and get the
    > > > gas injected (if it's possible). Replacing the window would probably
    > > > not be cost prohibitive.

    >
    > > > I'm not going to break the seal trying to get at some mold that is on
    > > > the exterior of the window.

    >
    > > No it wont, the two glass sheets are joined together with a spacer/
    > > sealing compound. I takes only a few minutes to remove the sealed
    > > unit.
    > > They are held in by beads/plastic moulding and neoprene seals.
    > > On most, you prise the beads out with (say) a woodworkers chisel,
    > > starting on the longer sides in the centre.
    > > There are a few around where you have to remove the neoprene seal
    > > first.
    > > It is a trivial task.  There may be spacers and security rivets inside
    > > the frame if the beads are external.

    >
    > He doesn't need to remove the glass. He's already stated that the
    > mildew/mold is between the outer piece of glass and the stop.
    >
    > Also, w/o knowing exactly what kind of window that he has, most likely
    > the glass is also sealed to the inner frame...not just sitting there
    > with only the stops to hold it in place.
    >
    > Spray bottle with a mixture of bleach and water or straight bleach
    > will take care of the problem.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    It might kill the mould but it will still be there.
     
    harry, Nov 9, 2011
    #18
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