Minimum stair to ceiling height?

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  1. Guest

    Can anyone confirm what the required minimum height is between the
    stair nose and ceiling?

    I'm replacing some stairs and where they turn you have the landing
    above you. I want to make sure the height clearance is adequate. One
    source tells me it's 6'6" but even they weren't 100% sure.
    , Aug 25, 2005
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  2. Bobby Bewl Guest

    <> wrote in message
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    > Can anyone confirm what the required minimum height is between the
    > stair nose and ceiling?
    >
    > I'm replacing some stairs and where they turn you have the landing
    > above you. I want to make sure the height clearance is adequate. One
    > source tells me it's 6'6" but even they weren't 100% sure.



    2 metres

    See: www.stairplan.com/Partkpage7.pdf

    Bobby
    Bobby Bewl, Aug 25, 2005
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  3. On 25 Aug 2005 09:59:37 -0700, wrote:

    >Can anyone confirm what the required minimum height is between the
    >stair nose and ceiling?


    The Building Regs have changed, there is no minimum ceiling height.

    In my study (a loft conversion) there is 1.9 metres,, the Building
    Inspector confirmed that the requirement no longer exists.

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    Nigel Molesworth, Aug 25, 2005
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  4. Bobby Bewl Guest

    "Bobby Bewl" <> wrote in message
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    >
    > <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Can anyone confirm what the required minimum height is between the
    >> stair nose and ceiling?
    >>
    >> I'm replacing some stairs and where they turn you have the landing
    >> above you. I want to make sure the height clearance is adequate. One
    >> source tells me it's 6'6" but even they weren't 100% sure.

    >
    >
    > 2 metres
    >
    > See: www.stairplan.com/Partkpage7.pdf
    >
    > Bobby

    and it is the same in Scotland:

    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/build_regs/standards/brs-03.asp#S3

    Bobby
    Bobby Bewl, Aug 25, 2005
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  5. in2minds Guest

    > The Building Regs have changed, there is no minimum ceiling height.
    >
    > In my study (a loft conversion) there is 1.9 metres,, the Building
    > Inspector confirmed that the requirement no longer exists.
    >


    not sure if it no longer exists but the toilet in our basement has only
    5'8" headroom and was passed by the BCO
    in2minds, Aug 25, 2005
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  6. Ian White Guest

    in2minds wrote:
    >> The Building Regs have changed, there is no minimum ceiling height.
    >>
    >> In my study (a loft conversion) there is 1.9 metres,, the Building
    >> Inspector confirmed that the requirement no longer exists.
    >>

    >
    >not sure if it no longer exists but the toilet in our basement has only
    >5'8" headroom and was passed by the BCO
    >

    AIUI there is still a 2.0m height requirement on the staircase and its
    top and bottom landings, but not anywhere else upstairs.


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    Ian White
    Ian White, Aug 25, 2005
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  7. Matt Guest

    "in2minds" <> wrote:

    >> The Building Regs have changed, there is no minimum ceiling height.
    >>
    >> In my study (a loft conversion) there is 1.9 metres,, the Building
    >> Inspector confirmed that the requirement no longer exists.
    >>

    >
    >not sure if it no longer exists but the toilet in our basement has only
    >5'8" headroom and was passed by the BCO


    .....who, being 6ft tall then proceeded to take a leak round the back
    of the shed



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    Matt, Aug 25, 2005
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  8. John Rumm Guest

    Nigel Molesworth wrote:

    > The Building Regs have changed, there is no minimum ceiling height.


    There is no minimum height for ceilings in rooms, but stairs are different.

    There standard headroom is 2m. For loft conversions, this is reduced to
    1.9m at the centre of the tread and can fall to as little as 1.8m at the
    edges of the tread.

    > In my study (a loft conversion) there is 1.9 metres,, the Building
    > Inspector confirmed that the requirement no longer exists.


    I would suggest that either you misunderstood, or he was wrong. See
    section 1.10 of part K of the building regs.


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    John Rumm, Aug 26, 2005
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  9. Nigel Molesworth wrote:

    > On 25 Aug 2005 09:59:37 -0700, wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Can anyone confirm what the required minimum height is between the
    >>stair nose and ceiling?

    >
    >
    > The Building Regs have changed, there is no minimum ceiling height.


    But there is on *Staircases*.

    BTW the measurement is between a line along the centre of the noses of
    the treads to any point vertically above IIRC

    >
    > In my study (a loft conversion) there is 1.9 metres,, the Building
    > Inspector confirmed that the requirement no longer exists.
    >


    Thats celing heifht in rooms. Not in straicases. Banging your head on
    the ceiling is not the same as falling down staris in today's britain.
    The Natural Philosopher, Aug 29, 2005
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  10. Ian White wrote:

    > in2minds wrote:
    >
    >>> The Building Regs have changed, there is no minimum ceiling height.
    >>>
    >>> In my study (a loft conversion) there is 1.9 metres,, the Building
    >>> Inspector confirmed that the requirement no longer exists.
    >>>

    >>
    >> not sure if it no longer exists but the toilet in our basement has only
    >> 5'8" headroom and was passed by the BCO
    >>

    > AIUI there is still a 2.0m height requirement on the staircase and its
    > top and bottom landings, but not anywhere else upstairs.
    >
    >

    My understanding is similar.
    The Natural Philosopher, Aug 29, 2005
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  11. Roger Guest

    The message <>
    from The Natural Philosopher <> contains these words:

    > > AIUI there is still a 2.0m height requirement on the staircase and its
    > > top and bottom landings, but not anywhere else upstairs.
    > >
    > >

    > My understanding is similar.


    ISTR that there is some limited relaxation of this rule for loft
    conversions where it is difficult to comply with. It is some time since
    I looked it up and I can't remember the detail.

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    Roger Chapman
    Roger, Aug 29, 2005
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  12. John Rumm Guest

    Roger wrote:

    > ISTR that there is some limited relaxation of this rule for loft
    > conversions


    That is right. If you can't meet the 2m requirement then you can go for
    1.9m in the centre of the tread falling to 1.8m at the edges.


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    John Rumm, Aug 30, 2005
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  13. Guest

    Okay, cheers all. 200cm is the correct figure it appears. The original
    stairs had a 195cm clearance. Not sure if the regulations applied in
    the 70s but looking at the poor way these original stairs were
    installed/supported they could have got away with installing a bamboo
    ladder.
    , Aug 30, 2005
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  14. Roger Guest

    The message <>
    from contains these words:

    > Okay, cheers all. 200cm is the correct figure it appears. The original
    > stairs had a 195cm clearance. Not sure if the regulations applied in
    > the 70s but looking at the poor way these original stairs were
    > installed/supported they could have got away with installing a bamboo
    > ladder.


    Before Building Regulations went metric the requirement was for a mere
    78 inches or 1981.2mm in new money. I don't know when the change
    occurred but it was certainly later than the early 70s.

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    Roger Chapman
    Roger, Aug 30, 2005
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