how to turn off street water main?

Discussion in 'Home Repair' started by Native, Jan 9, 2005.

  1. Native

    Native Guest

    Hello: Have a slow leak inbetween my house shut-off and street shut-off
    main. Hence, need to turn off main at the street. However, I can't
    figure out how to shut the street main off.

    I have a street key, but still can't find where it goes in to turn off
    the valve. The meter box was filled with water and mud and even after
    removing most of that I still could not figure out where to insert the
    key.

    Is the shut-off in the same box with the meter? Does anyone have a pic
    of what a clean/new install of one of these would look like so I can
    figure out where the key goes?

    Also, this made me think. If It took me 10 mins just to get all the mud
    and water out of the meter box to see the meter, how is the city
    reading my meter to know how much to bill me?
     
    Native, Jan 9, 2005
    #1
    1. Advertising

  2. "Native" <> wrote in message
    >
    > I have a street key, but still can't find where it goes in to turn off
    > the valve. The meter box was filled with water and mud and even after
    > removing most of that I still could not figure out where to insert the
    > key.
    >


    On the top of the valve.


    > Is the shut-off in the same box with the meter?


    Probably just ahead of the meter.


    > Also, this made me think. If It took me 10 mins just to get all the mud
    > and water out of the meter box to see the meter, how is the city
    > reading my meter to know how much to bill me?


    Some are electronic and no visibility needed. They send a signal to the
    reader as he dives by.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jan 9, 2005
    #2
    1. Advertising

  3. Native

    Speedy Jim Guest

    Native wrote:

    > Hello: Have a slow leak inbetween my house shut-off and street shut-off
    > main. Hence, need to turn off main at the street. However, I can't
    > figure out how to shut the street main off.


    IMHO you are taking a great big risk. Bad things happen when the
    connection at the curb stop breaks off as you are wrenching on it.

    Call the city/utility and explain why you need a shutoff order.

    Jim
     
    Speedy Jim, Jan 9, 2005
    #3
  4. Native

    Hound Dog Guest

    "Native" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello: Have a slow leak inbetween my house shut-off and street shut-off
    > main. Hence, need to turn off main at the street. However, I can't
    > figure out how to shut the street main off.
    >
    > I have a street key, but still can't find where it goes in to turn off
    > the valve. The meter box was filled with water and mud and even after
    > removing most of that I still could not figure out where to insert the
    > key.
    >
    > Is the shut-off in the same box with the meter? Does anyone have a pic
    > of what a clean/new install of one of these would look like so I can
    > figure out where the key goes?
    >
    > Also, this made me think. If It took me 10 mins just to get all the mud
    > and water out of the meter box to see the meter, how is the city
    > reading my meter to know how much to bill me?


    Your best bet is to call the city and have them turn your water off at the
    street.

    I have used several plumbers over the years and they all have called and
    arranged for the city to turn the water off at the street if time permitted.

    They are concerned of something happening and they will be held liable.

    My shut-off valve at the house is corroded open and I intend to have it
    replaced this spring. The plumber I will be using has asked me to notify
    him several days in advance so he can contact the city to turn off the water
    supply at the street.




    >
     
    Hound Dog, Jan 10, 2005
    #4
  5. Native

    Guest

    I also agree that this is the one plumbing thing that I do not want to
    attempt to do myself.
     
    , Jan 10, 2005
    #5
  6. Native

    Yuban Hadd Guest

    >From my experience in this matter, my water company (EBMUD) is
    responsible (they fix it for free) for any leaks up stream from the
    meter and I'm responsible for my side of the meter....K
     
    Yuban Hadd, Jan 10, 2005
    #6
  7. Native

    MLD Guest

    "Hound Dog" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Native" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Hello: Have a slow leak inbetween my house shut-off and street shut-off
    > > main. Hence, need to turn off main at the street. However, I can't
    > > figure out how to shut the street main off.
    > >
    > > I have a street key, but still can't find where it goes in to turn off
    > > the valve. The meter box was filled with water and mud and even after
    > > removing most of that I still could not figure out where to insert the
    > > key.
    > >
    > > Is the shut-off in the same box with the meter? Does anyone have a pic
    > > of what a clean/new install of one of these would look like so I can
    > > figure out where the key goes?
    > >
    > > Also, this made me think. If It took me 10 mins just to get all the mud
    > > and water out of the meter box to see the meter, how is the city
    > > reading my meter to know how much to bill me?

    >
    > Your best bet is to call the city and have them turn your water off at the
    > street.
    >
    > I have used several plumbers over the years and they all have called and
    > arranged for the city to turn the water off at the street if time

    permitted.
    >
    > They are concerned of something happening and they will be held liable.
    >
    > My shut-off valve at the house is corroded open and I intend to have it
    > replaced this spring. The plumber I will be using has asked me to notify
    > him several days in advance so he can contact the city to turn off the

    water
    > supply at the street.



    My plumber said call the city because bad things can happen
    sometimes--Guess what--The city came and in turning the valve with the key
    the underground extention rod sheared off. Necessitated digging up the
    street, replacing the extention rod and then rehot topping.
    MLD
     
    MLD, Jan 10, 2005
    #7
  8. MLD wrote:
    > "Hound Dog" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>"Native" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>
    >>>Hello: Have a slow leak inbetween my house shut-off and street shut-off
    >>>main. Hence, need to turn off main at the street. However, I can't
    >>>figure out how to shut the street main off.
    >>>
    >>>I have a street key, but still can't find where it goes in to turn off
    >>>the valve. The meter box was filled with water and mud and even after
    >>>removing most of that I still could not figure out where to insert the
    >>>key.
    >>>
    >>>Is the shut-off in the same box with the meter? Does anyone have a pic
    >>>of what a clean/new install of one of these would look like so I can
    >>>figure out where the key goes?
    >>>
    >>>Also, this made me think. If It took me 10 mins just to get all the mud
    >>>and water out of the meter box to see the meter, how is the city
    >>>reading my meter to know how much to bill me?

    >>
    >>Your best bet is to call the city and have them turn your water off at the
    >>street.
    >>
    >>I have used several plumbers over the years and they all have called and
    >>arranged for the city to turn the water off at the street if time

    >
    > permitted.
    >
    >>They are concerned of something happening and they will be held liable.
    >>
    >>My shut-off valve at the house is corroded open and I intend to have it
    >>replaced this spring. The plumber I will be using has asked me to notify
    >>him several days in advance so he can contact the city to turn off the

    >
    > water
    >
    >>supply at the street.

    >
    >
    >
    > My plumber said call the city because bad things can happen
    > sometimes--Guess what--The city came and in turning the valve with the key
    > the underground extention rod sheared off. Necessitated digging up the
    > street, replacing the extention rod and then rehot topping.
    > MLD
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

    Kind of depends on how long the valve has been in and when
    last used. I turn off at the street any time I need to. Be
    damned if I am going to craw under the house. At first we
    had no meter, then they installed meters, all of that was in
    the past 30 years. So my street valve operates just ok.

    Maybe some of those guys leaning on shovels ought to just do
    a quick turn off and on of the closest valves to keep them
    exercised.
     
    George E. Cawthon, Jan 11, 2005
    #8
  9. Native

    Rich Guest

    "Native" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello: Have a slow leak inbetween my house shut-off and street shut-off
    > main. Hence, need to turn off main at the street. However, I can't
    > figure out how to shut the street main off.
    >
    > I have a street key, but still can't find where it goes in to turn off
    > the valve. The meter box was filled with water and mud and even after
    > removing most of that I still could not figure out where to insert the
    > key.
    >
    > Is the shut-off in the same box with the meter? Does anyone have a pic
    > of what a clean/new install of one of these would look like so I can
    > figure out where the key goes?
    >


    The valve is probably by the meter. We recently switched to an electronic
    method of reading the meter. There is a small disk shaped antenna on top of
    the meter hole cover.

    However, you may be in for a big job. The city here required a piece of
    plastic pipe between the meter and the copper to the house. The company
    that installed the plumbing used a cheap connector. With heating and
    cooling over the years those plastic connectors break. They are about 8
    feet underground. Some I knew have done it themselves but I hired a guy.
    Fortunate as there are also power lines and gas lines near the pipe.

    You must contact other utilities to get the lines marked before digging.
    Then we found that the city gas lines feeding the block are a very cheap
    white plastic. The fellow fixing the line had never seen that type of pipe
    used for gas and was being very careful. They dug the hole without any
    damage to the gas line. When attempting to loosen the pipe fitting the
    guy's wrench slipped and his elbow hit the gas line fracturing it. So we
    then had to wait for the gas company to come and fix the line before
    proceeding. The gas company assured me they were going to replace that
    plastic pipe in the near future.
     
    Rich, Jan 11, 2005
    #9
    1. Advertising

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

It takes just 2 minutes to sign up (and it's free!). Just click the sign up button to choose a username and then you can ask your own questions on the forum.
Similar Threads
  1. DIY Numpty
    Replies:
    7
    Views:
    1,407
    The Medway Handyman
    Mar 31, 2007
  2. barry
    Replies:
    5
    Views:
    1,322
    TURTLE
    Jan 5, 2005
  3. Replies:
    2
    Views:
    228
  4. Replies:
    11
    Views:
    323
    Jerry - OHIO
    Aug 12, 2008
  5. Replies:
    9
    Views:
    496
    Stormin Mormon
    Jul 10, 2006
Loading...

Share This Page