Honeywell CM927 pdf

Discussion in 'UK DIY' started by John Stumbles, Nov 2, 2007.

  1. Installing a CM927 Wireless progstat the other day I thought it would be
    useful to have a copy of the installation manual (since I'd be leaving the
    one that came with it with the customer).

    So, off I went to Honeywell's wibble ...

    Their home page http://content.honeywell.com/uk/homes.htm trumpets the
    '900 series (but has a broken-graphic icon where a picture of it should
    be - not a good start). However their INSTALLATION AND USER GUIDES page
    at http://content.honeywell.com/uk/homes/manuals.htm only lists the CM67
    range!

    So I emailed them () and they sent me a PDF
    .... containing a very grotty scan of the manual, 10 times the file size of
    the CM67 PDF! Emailed them back asking for a proper PDF but got the reply
    "Im afraid that is the only copy we have".

    What's going on with Honeywell? Are they having serious problems in the IT
    and/or clue departments? Anyone come across a real PDF for this device?

    --
    John Stumbles

    My karma ran over my dogma
    John Stumbles, Nov 2, 2007
    #1
  2. On 2 Nov, 13:59, John Stumbles <> wrote:

    > What's going on with Honeywell? Are they having serious problems in the IT
    > and/or clue departments? Anyone come across a real PDF for this device?


    Will this suffice?

    http://europe.hbc.honeywell.com/products/pdf/en0h8556uk07r1006.pdf

    (Found via a Google search so don't know how to navigate there via
    Honeywell's site, if it's even possible)

    Mathew
    Mathew Newton, Nov 2, 2007
    #2
  3. On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:08:14 -0700, Mathew Newton wrote:

    > Will this suffice?


    It will - thanks!

    > http://europe.hbc.honeywell.com/products/pdf/en0h8556uk07r1006.pdf
    >
    > (Found via a Google search so don't know how to navigate there via
    > Honeywell's site, if it's even possible)


    It is navigable from their europe site, but their UK site seems to be a
    dog's dinner. Sorry: should have STFWed for myself :)

    It's not the same as the leaflet that came with the 'stat, but the
    contents are all there, just in colour and in a different arrangement.

    --
    John Stumbles

    Seagull Management
    Management technique characterised by flying in, making a lot of noise,
    crapping on everything, and then leaving.
    John Stumbles, Nov 2, 2007
    #3
  4. John Stumbles

    AT Guest

    "John Stumbles" <> wrote in message
    news:e3GWi.3089$...
    > Installing a CM927 Wireless progstat the other day I thought it would be
    > useful to have a copy of the installation manual (since I'd be leaving the
    > one that came with it with the customer).
    >
    > So, off I went to Honeywell's wibble ...
    >
    > Their home page http://content.honeywell.com/uk/homes.htm trumpets the
    > '900 series (but has a broken-graphic icon where a picture of it should
    > be - not a good start). However their INSTALLATION AND USER GUIDES page
    > at http://content.honeywell.com/uk/homes/manuals.htm only lists the CM67
    > range!
    >
    > So I emailed them () and they sent me a PDF
    > ... containing a very grotty scan of the manual, 10 times the file size of
    > the CM67 PDF! Emailed them back asking for a proper PDF but got the reply
    > "Im afraid that is the only copy we have".
    >
    > What's going on with Honeywell? Are they having serious problems in the IT
    > and/or clue departments? Anyone come across a real PDF for this device?
    >
    > --
    > John Stumbles
    >
    > My karma ran over my dogma


    What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not had
    a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.
    AT, Nov 3, 2007
    #4
  5. AT wrote:

    > What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not had
    > a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.


    My sister had a CM927 fitted when they put gas in. It has optimization,
    but it does not have the very handy "party mode" and "holiday mode"
    options which are on my CM67. On the other hand, the nice backlit LCD is
    easier to read.

    Googling, it looks like Honeywell say the CM927 *does* have both of
    those modes. I guess there are different types of CM927, so watch out
    for that.
    Geronimo W. Christ Esq, Nov 4, 2007
    #5
  6. On Nov 4, 12:20 pm, "Geronimo W. Christ Esq"
    <> wrote:
    > AT wrote:
    > > What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not had
    > > a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.

    >
    > My sister had a CM927 fitted when they put gas in. It has optimization,
    > but it does not have the very handy "party mode" and "holiday mode"
    > options which are on my CM67. On the other hand, the nice backlit LCD is
    > easier to read.
    >
    > Googling, it looks like Honeywell say the CM927 *does* have both of
    > those modes. I guess there are different types of CM927, so watch out
    > for that.


    Yep, my CM927 has party and holiday mode.

    Are you *sure* she's got a CM927?

    Mathew
    Mathew Newton, Nov 5, 2007
    #6
  7. On 3 Nov, 13:51, "AT" <> wrote:

    > What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not had
    > a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.


    I installed one on my house a couple of weeks ago. I find it
    excellent. It's very good at holding a steady temperature. The
    optimisation idea is really good, as are the "party" and "holiday"
    modes (which allow you to depart from the usual programme for either
    hours or days). It also has a "day-off" mode which makes it run the
    Sunday programme for one day if you're at home during the week. Being
    able to move the thing from room to room is great too - you don't have
    to agonise too much over where the optimal location will be for the
    wiring, and you can make sure that wherever you happen to be in the
    house is at the required temperature. All-in-all the idea of
    progamming the system by time AND temperature makes perfect sense -
    it's intuitively how you need the system to operate. Previously I'd
    struggled on for a couple of years with just a time clock and TRVs on
    the rads, so this is a whole lot better and hopefully will save me a
    few bob off my gas bill.
    Martin Pentreath, Nov 5, 2007
    #7
  8. On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:51:48 +0000, AT wrote:

    > What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not
    > had a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.


    I tend to fit them as they're the least awful progstats I've tried to
    program. Even so you need a bit of thought to set them up usefully.

    --
    John Stumbles

    I used to think the brain was the most interesting part of the body
    - until I realised what was telling me that
    John Stumbles, Nov 6, 2007
    #8
  9. On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, John Stumbles wrote:

    > On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:51:48 +0000, AT wrote:
    >
    >> What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not
    >> had a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.

    >
    > I tend to fit them as they're the least awful progstats I've tried to
    > program. Even so you need a bit of thought to set them up usefully.


    I just set up a 907 (which I think is the same, only it's wired) and
    think I am doing OK with respect to comfort (but cannot monitor
    efficiency, as I did not keep records from the previous thermostat).
    What is tricky?

    Thanks!

    Kostas
    Kostas Kavoussanakis, Nov 7, 2007
    #9
  10. On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:57:04 +0000, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

    > What is tricky?


    If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do you do
    with the others? And when you manually bump the temperature up or down how
    long does the change last? Takes a bit of thought to choose useful
    transition points. Say someone is up after the transition to a low
    night-time temperature and therefore they push the temperature back up: I
    want another transition that'll reset it to the night-time temperature
    later, in case They forget to put it back manually. So if my night-time
    temperature starts at midnight I might have another transition point (set
    to the same night-time temp) at 2am.

    --
    John Stumbles

    Question Authority
    John Stumbles, Nov 7, 2007
    #10
  11. On 7 Nov, 23:11, John Stumbles <> wrote:
    > On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:57:04 +0000, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
    > > What is tricky?

    >
    > If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do you do
    > with the others? And when you manually bump the temperature up or down how
    > long does the change last? Takes a bit of thought to choose useful
    > transition points. Say someone is up after the transition to a low
    > night-time temperature and therefore they push the temperature back up: I
    > want another transition that'll reset it to the night-time temperature
    > later, in case They forget to put it back manually. So if my night-time
    > temperature starts at midnight I might have another transition point (set
    > to the same night-time temp) at 2am.
    >
    > --
    > John Stumbles


    Heh.. I like that idea.

    I've 'hidden' my unusued transition points as they weren't required
    however maybe I'll look at including them to automatically 'fight
    back' when the other half manually ups the temperature!!

    Mathew
    Mathew Newton, Nov 8, 2007
    #11
  12. On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, John Stumbles wrote:

    > On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:57:04 +0000, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
    >
    > If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do you do
    > with the others?


    While in PROG mode, press the I button for 2 seconds and they
    disappear.

    > And when you manually bump the temperature up or down how
    > long does the change last?


    If you are still on Auto, until the next transition point. (I have not
    read the manual, how am I doing? :)).

    > Say someone is up after the transition to a low
    > night-time temperature and therefore they push the temperature back up: I
    > want another transition that'll reset it to the night-time temperature
    > later, in case They forget to put it back manually.


    Assuming that they have not used the Party function (which should be a
    favour-yielding offence :)) and that they have not gone into Manual,
    at some point you will go back to normal. Assuming an odd occurrence,
    it doesn't matter much, does it?

    > So if my night-time
    > temperature starts at midnight I might have another transition point (set
    > to the same night-time temp) at 2am.


    You can do that and I would certainly do that if cranking up the
    heating in the middle of the night was a regular occurrence. Or you can
    show them how the (excellent) Party function works.

    Kostas
    Kostas Kavoussanakis, Nov 8, 2007
    #12
  13. On 8 Nov, 13:26, Kostas Kavoussanakis <> wrote:
    > On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, John Stumbles wrote:
    > > On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:57:04 +0000, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

    >
    > > If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do you do
    > > with the others?

    >
    > While in PROG mode, press the I button for 2 seconds and they
    > disappear.


    I think you have completely missed John's point.

    Now, would you like a biscuit or a medal for your programming
    achievements? ;-)

    Mathew
    Mathew Newton, Nov 8, 2007
    #13
  14. On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Mathew Newton wrote:

    > On 8 Nov, 13:26, Kostas Kavoussanakis <> wrote:
    >> On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, John Stumbles wrote:
    >>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:57:04 +0000, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

    >>
    >>> If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do you do
    >>> with the others?

    >>
    >> While in PROG mode, press the I button for 2 seconds and they
    >> disappear.

    >
    > I think you have completely missed John's point.


    Can you help me find it? Ta!

    Kostas
    Kostas Kavoussanakis, Nov 8, 2007
    #14
  15. On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:45:38 +0000, Tony Bryer wrote:

    > I always use the party for this: two hours at 21C or whatever
    > (likewise if I have go out but a low temp)


    My bad. I thought that only worked if you remembered to hit the party
    button before it had made the transition to the lower night-time
    temperature (and it's inevitably when it's started to cool down you
    notice and want to rectify it). I think that's how the CM67 worked, but
    with the CM900 series you can set the party temperature as well. RTFM :)

    --
    John Stumbles

    Extreme moderate
    John Stumbles, Nov 9, 2007
    #15

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