Gas Installation

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  1. Having recently purchased a gas cooker, I need to get it installed.
    Does anyone know if British Gas or Transco offer this service?
    The Weary Wizard, Jan 18, 2007
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  2. The Weary Wizard

    DIY Guest

    "The Weary Wizard" wrote:
    > Having recently purchased a gas cooker, I need to get it installed.
    > Does anyone know if British Gas or Transco offer this service?


    BG yes, Transco no.
    DIY, Jan 18, 2007
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    Bob Eager Guest

    On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:19:54 UTC, "The Weary Wizard"
    <> wrote:

    > Having recently purchased a gas cooker, I need to get it installed.
    > Does anyone know if British Gas or Transco offer this service?


    British Gas would. At a price. And probably not very well. Ask around
    for a good local gas fitter. Really.

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    Bob Eager, Jan 18, 2007
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  4. The Weary Wizard

    DIY Guest

    "Bob Eager" wrote:
    > British Gas would. At a price. And probably not very well. Ask around
    > for a good local gas fitter. Really.


    I'll second that.
    DIY, Jan 18, 2007
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  5. The Weary Wizard

    Psst Guest

    On 18 Jan 2007 18:44:40 GMT, "Bob Eager" <> wrote:

    >On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:19:54 UTC, "The Weary Wizard"
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >> Having recently purchased a gas cooker, I need to get it installed.
    >> Does anyone know if British Gas or Transco offer this service?

    >
    >British Gas would. At a price. And probably not very well. Ask around
    >for a good local gas fitter. Really.

    That is rather unfair IMHO. True they would be pricey but quality of
    workmanship can be variable no matter who you work for. Its down to
    the individual,his skill,and price in his work.

    Transco no longer exists.
    Psst, Jan 18, 2007
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  6. The Weary Wizard

    Bob Eager Guest

    On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:46:08 UTC, Psst <> wrote:

    > On 18 Jan 2007 18:44:40 GMT, "Bob Eager" <> wrote:
    >
    > >On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:19:54 UTC, "The Weary Wizard"
    > ><> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Having recently purchased a gas cooker, I need to get it installed.
    > >> Does anyone know if British Gas or Transco offer this service?

    > >
    > >British Gas would. At a price. And probably not very well. Ask around
    > >for a good local gas fitter. Really.

    > That is rather unfair IMHO. True they would be pricey but quality of
    > workmanship can be variable no matter who you work for. Its down to
    > the individual,his skill,and price in his work.


    Which is why I said 'probably'. My experience of BG has been mainly but
    exclusively bad. I was trying to point out that using BG (or 'the gas
    board') is no guarantee of quality. But it is bloody expensive.
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    Bob Eager, Jan 18, 2007
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    raden Guest

    In message <>, The
    Weary Wizard <> writes
    >Having recently purchased a gas cooker, I need to get it installed.
    >Does anyone know if British Gas or Transco offer this service?
    >

    Why would you want them to ?

    How have you managed to go through life missing all the adverse
    publicity about their prices and methods ?

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    geoff
    raden, Jan 18, 2007
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    zaax Guest

    The Weary Wizard wrote:

    > Having recently purchased a gas cooker, I need to get it installed.
    > Does anyone know if British Gas or Transco offer this service?


    If there is a pipe already there the delivery plp will connect it. If
    there is not pipe get a corgi registered person to take a pipe there.

    --
    zaax
    zaax, Jan 18, 2007
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  9. On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:13:08 +0000, zaax wrote:

    > The Weary Wizard wrote:
    >
    >> Having recently purchased a gas cooker, I need to get it installed.
    >> Does anyone know if British Gas or Transco offer this service?

    >
    > If there is a pipe already there the delivery plp will connect it. If
    > there is not pipe get a corgi registered person to take a pipe there.


    Not unless they're CORGI registered. Installing a gas appliance in the
    course of business without being CORGI reg is illegal.
    John Stumbles, Jan 19, 2007
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  10. "The Weary Wizard" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Having recently purchased a gas cooker, I need to get it installed.
    > Does anyone know if British Gas or Transco offer this service?
    >
    >

    I bought a replacement gas cooker some years ago, and fitted it myself. It
    didn't come with a flexible hose, so I had to get one. I think that there
    were 2 types (natural, butane?), so you must make sure that you get the
    correct one.
    There already was a "T" junction there, so all I had to do was to get the
    correct female bayonet fitting (it was a tapered thread, and I used P.T.F.E.
    tape.
    I've had no trouble with this DIY job.

    Sylvain.
    Sylvain VAN DER WALDE, Jan 19, 2007
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  11. The Weary Wizard

    Lobster Guest

    Sylvain VAN DER WALDE wrote:
    >>

    > I bought a replacement gas cooker some years ago, and fitted it myself. It
    > didn't come with a flexible hose, so I had to get one. I think that there
    > were 2 types (natural, butane?), so you must make sure that you get the
    > correct one.
    > There already was a "T" junction there, so all I had to do was to get the
    > correct female bayonet fitting (it was a tapered thread, and I used P.T.F.E.
    > tape.


    And you did use the proper gas-grade PTFE tape, didn't you?

    David
    Lobster, Jan 20, 2007
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  12. "Lobster" <> wrote in message
    news:FJssh.88483$...
    > Sylvain VAN DER WALDE wrote:
    >>>

    >> I bought a replacement gas cooker some years ago, and fitted it myself.
    >> It didn't come with a flexible hose, so I had to get one. I think that
    >> there were 2 types (natural, butane?), so you must make sure that you get
    >> the correct one.
    >> There already was a "T" junction there, so all I had to do was to get the
    >> correct female bayonet fitting (it was a tapered thread, and I used
    >> P.T.F.E. tape.

    >
    > And you did use the proper gas-grade PTFE tape, didn't you?
    >

    Probably not. Please tell me more.

    Sylvain.

    > David
    Sylvain VAN DER WALDE, Jan 20, 2007
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  13. The Weary Wizard

    Ed Sirett Guest

    On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:37:26 +0000, Sylvain VAN DER WALDE wrote:

    > "Lobster" <> wrote in message
    > news:FJssh.88483$...
    >> Sylvain VAN DER WALDE wrote:
    >>>>
    >>> I bought a replacement gas cooker some years ago, and fitted it myself.
    >>> It didn't come with a flexible hose, so I had to get one. I think that
    >>> there were 2 types (natural, butane?), so you must make sure that you get
    >>> the correct one.
    >>> There already was a "T" junction there, so all I had to do was to get the
    >>> correct female bayonet fitting (it was a tapered thread, and I used
    >>> P.T.F.E. tape.

    >>
    >> And you did use the proper gas-grade PTFE tape, didn't you?
    >>

    > Probably not. Please tell me more.
    >

    I was about to make the same point but I thought better of it. I had
    given someone a "mildly" negative response the other day about bypassing
    safety controls to make a temporary repair, and thought that I'd probably
    over stayed my welcome on reading out the gas fitting book.

    The very fact that you didn't know the difference means that you should not
    have been doing the job. Did you check the ventilation,
    clearances, gas pressures or gas rates and the new joint for gas tightness.

    IMHO you should read the FAQ before doing any more.

    --
    Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
    The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
    Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
    Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
    Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html
    Gas Fitting Standards Docs here: http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards
    Ed Sirett, Jan 20, 2007
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  14. In article <Gjtsh.72324$>,
    "Sylvain VAN DER WALDE" <> writes:
    > "Lobster" <> wrote in message
    > news:FJssh.88483$...
    >>
    >> And you did use the proper gas-grade PTFE tape, didn't you?
    >>

    > Probably not. Please tell me more.


    Gas grade PTFE is much thicker. It often comes on yellow spools.
    You overlap it by half the width, so it is always 2 layers thick.
    (You can use it for water too, but you mustn't use the water grade
    PTFE for gas.)

    --
    Andrew Gabriel
    Andrew Gabriel, Jan 20, 2007
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    Owain Guest

    Ed Sirett wrote:
    > I was about to make the same point but I thought better of it. I had
    > given someone a "mildly" negative response the other day about bypassing
    > safety controls to make a temporary repair, and thought that I'd probably
    > over stayed my welcome on reading out the gas fitting book.


    You couldn't possibly overstay your welcome here :)

    Owain
    Owain, Jan 20, 2007
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  16. "Ed Sirett" <> wrote in message
    news:eotpgk$g7r$1$...
    > On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:37:26 +0000, Sylvain VAN DER WALDE wrote:
    >
    >> "Lobster" <> wrote in message
    >> news:FJssh.88483$...
    >>> Sylvain VAN DER WALDE wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>> I bought a replacement gas cooker some years ago, and fitted it myself.
    >>>> It didn't come with a flexible hose, so I had to get one. I think that
    >>>> there were 2 types (natural, butane?), so you must make sure that you
    >>>> get
    >>>> the correct one.
    >>>> There already was a "T" junction there, so all I had to do was to get
    >>>> the
    >>>> correct female bayonet fitting (it was a tapered thread, and I used
    >>>> P.T.F.E. tape.
    >>>
    >>> And you did use the proper gas-grade PTFE tape, didn't you?
    >>>

    >> Probably not. Please tell me more.
    >>

    > I was about to make the same point but I thought better of it. I had
    > given someone a "mildly" negative response the other day about bypassing
    > safety controls to make a temporary repair, and thought that I'd probably
    > over stayed my welcome on reading out the gas fitting book.
    >
    > The very fact that you didn't know the difference means that you should
    > not
    > have been doing the job. Did you check the ventilation,
    > clearances, gas pressures or gas rates and the new joint for gas
    > tightness.
    >


    I did say _replacement_ cooker. I do have an air vent fitted to the window.
    There's plenty of clearance around the cooker. I did use soapy water to test
    the new joint. I use a carbon monoxide detector (I didn't skimp on the
    cost).
    Thanks for your comments.

    > IMHO you should read the FAQ before doing any more.


    Agreed.

    Sylvain.
    >
    > --
    > Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
    > The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
    > Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
    > Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
    > Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html
    > Gas Fitting Standards Docs here:
    > http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards
    >
    Sylvain VAN DER WALDE, Jan 21, 2007
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  17. "Andrew Gabriel" <> wrote in message
    news:45b26e97$0$761$...
    > In article <Gjtsh.72324$>,
    > "Sylvain VAN DER WALDE" <> writes:
    >> "Lobster" <> wrote in message
    >> news:FJssh.88483$...
    >>>
    >>> And you did use the proper gas-grade PTFE tape, didn't you?
    >>>

    >> Probably not. Please tell me more.

    >
    > Gas grade PTFE is much thicker. It often comes on yellow spools.
    > You overlap it by half the width, so it is always 2 layers thick.
    > (You can use it for water too, but you mustn't use the water grade
    > PTFE for gas.)
    >

    Where do I get that tape?
    And don't worry, "my eyes aren't bigger than my stomach". In other words,
    I'm well aware of my limitations, and act accordingly.

    Sylvain.
    > --
    > Andrew Gabriel
    Sylvain VAN DER WALDE, Jan 21, 2007
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  18. In article <IAJsh.41165$>,
    "Sylvain VAN DER WALDE" <> writes:
    > "Andrew Gabriel" <> wrote in message
    >> Gas grade PTFE is much thicker. It often comes on yellow spools.
    >> You overlap it by half the width, so it is always 2 layers thick.
    >> (You can use it for water too, but you mustn't use the water grade
    >> PTFE for gas.)
    >>

    > Where do I get that tape?
    > And don't worry, "my eyes aren't bigger than my stomach". In other words,
    > I'm well aware of my limitations, and act accordingly.


    B&Q certainly used to (might be one of the things they're ditching
    in their move to the soft furnishing market). Any plumber's merchant.

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    Andrew Gabriel
    Andrew Gabriel, Jan 21, 2007
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  19. Psst wrote:

    >
    >
    > Transco no longer exists.


    Did last time I checked!
    The Weary Wizard, Jan 23, 2007
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  20. zaax wrote:

    >
    >
    > If there is a pipe already there the delivery plp will connect it. If
    > there is not pipe get a corgi registered person to take a pipe there.
    >
    > --
    > zaax


    Well I have now taken delivery of my cooker from Comet, having ordered
    connection too. A very unexotic job, simply consisting of
    disconnecting my old cooker and connecting the new one. The
    representatives have no interest in doing their jobs, manufacturing
    reasons each time why they shouldn't. And from what I can gather, with
    gas regulations being what they are, they can always justify walking
    away if sufficiently determined. I was astonished at this. When
    raising this matter on an internet forum, I received 191 responses in
    24 hours from people who'd had this experience with comet. It seems
    they use sub-contractors, who get paid come what may, who have no
    interest in or intention of doing their jobs. They come in, look for
    the first excuse they can pluck out of the air for not doing it and
    they're away on their toes. They've played games with me no fewer than
    4 times now, with another so-called connection scheduled for this
    Tuesday. I'm already listing the potential excuses they plan to come
    up with.

    I've raised a complaint with both Comet's managing director now and
    Trading Standards. My mother is disabled and has been without a fully
    working cooker for weeks. These cynical parasitic scum should hold
    their heads in shame.

    She's a woman of very modest means and is nervous of hiring a local
    CORGI tradesman, simply through fear of the bill being 'creative' shall
    we say. Can anyone advise me as to what she should expect to pay for a
    relatively unexotic connection?
    The Weary Wizard, Jan 23, 2007
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