Fur BEam Thickness For second Floor

Discussion in 'Building Construction' started by carver45, Oct 25, 2005.

  1. carver45

    carver45 Guest

    Hello,

    I am building a 2 storey post and beam house and need to support the
    second storey so there are no supports in the center. The house will be
    24 x 40 feet. I want the first storey to be open. So I am going to cut
    some fur beams to run across the 24 feet at the top of the ground
    floor. I live in fur country and can cut my beams as thick as I need.

    So my question is how big of beams do I need and how many in 40 feet.
    Is their a web page anybody knows of that would give me the bearing
    loads of certain woods.

    I appreciate any answers. thanks
     
    carver45, Oct 25, 2005
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  2. carver45

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post carver45 wrote...
    > I am building a 2 storey post and beam house and need to support the
    > second storey so there are no supports in the center. The house will be
    > 24 x 40 feet. I want the first storey to be open. So I am going to cut
    > some fur beams to run across the 24 feet at the top of the ground
    > floor. I live in fur country and can cut my beams as thick as I need.
    >
    > So my question is how big of beams do I need and how many in 40 feet.
    > Is their a web page anybody knows of that would give me the bearing
    > loads of certain woods.
    >


    Hire a structural engineer. This is nothing to fool around with.

    BTW, the wood is spelled "FIR"

    --
    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
     
    Bob Morrison, Oct 25, 2005
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  3. carver45

    carver45 Guest

    Re: Fir BEam Thickness For second Floor

    Hi Bob,

    That is a good suggestion. Any idea what the estimated cost would be?
    Just doing up cost analysis for the bank.
    Yes and thank-you for the correct spelling of fir.
    Chris

    Bob Morrison wrote:
    > In a previous post carver45 wrote...
    > > I am building a 2 storey post and beam house and need to support the
    > > second storey so there are no supports in the center. The house will be
    > > 24 x 40 feet. I want the first storey to be open. So I am going to cut
    > > some fur beams to run across the 24 feet at the top of the ground
    > > floor. I live in fur country and can cut my beams as thick as I need.
    > >
    > > So my question is how big of beams do I need and how many in 40 feet.
    > > Is their a web page anybody knows of that would give me the bearing
    > > loads of certain woods.
    > >

    >
    > Hire a structural engineer. This is nothing to fool around with.
    >
    > BTW, the wood is spelled "FIR"
    >
    > --
    > Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    > R L Morrison Engineering Co
    > Structural & Civil Engineering
    > Poulsbo WA
     
    carver45, Oct 25, 2005
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  4. carver45

    Bob Morrison Guest

    Re: Fir BEam Thickness For second Floor

    In a previous post carver45 wrote...
    > Hi Bob,
    >
    > That is a good suggestion. Any idea what the estimated cost would be?
    > Just doing up cost analysis for the bank.
    > Yes and thank-you for the correct spelling of fir.
    > Chris
    >


    You will probably want a full structural analysis of the house.

    For engineering only (no drawings) I would probably charge in the $US 1.10
    per sq. ft range. So, for 2 stories of 24x40 this would come to about
    $US 2,100. If you wanted me to provide foundation and framing drawings I
    would double the above number.

    That should get you in the ballpark for design budget for engineering.

    --
    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
     
    Bob Morrison, Oct 25, 2005
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  5. carver45

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Bob Morrison wrote:

    > In a previous post carver45 wrote...
    >
    >>I am building a 2 storey post and beam house and need to support the
    >>second storey so there are no supports in the center. The house will be
    >>24 x 40 feet. I want the first storey to be open. So I am going to cut
    >>some fur beams to run across the 24 feet at the top of the ground
    >>floor. I live in fur country and can cut my beams as thick as I need.
    >>
    >>So my question is how big of beams do I need and how many in 40 feet.
    >>Is their a web page anybody knows of that would give me the bearing
    >>loads of certain woods.
    >>

    >
    >
    > Hire a structural engineer. This is nothing to fool around with.
    >
    > BTW, the wood is spelled "FIR"
    >


    And it is story, rather than storey. :)

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Oct 25, 2005
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