framing a 45 degree pantry wall... suggestions... ?

Discussion in 'Misc DIY' started by maurice, Dec 2, 2006.

  1. maurice

    maurice Guest

    Hi, all.

    I'm adding a pantry to an existing kitchen, so I'm framing some
    non-structural partition walls, and then drywalling them. Essentially,
    I'll end up with a neo-angle pantry, and I'd like the door in the
    angled wall.

    When I got around to framing it in, I ran into a problem. I'm using
    2x4s for the walls, but when I go to install the angled wall, the
    angled cuts in my 2x4 plate end up being wider than the other two
    walls.

    To hang drywall, do I just build up those two walls (the difference is
    about 1 1/4") with plywood, or is there a simple solution that I'm
    missing?

    Funny, I've never encountered this before. I've attached about the
    worst drawing ever produced in a newsgroup.



    I
    I
    I
    (inside pantry) I
    I
    /
    /
    /
    / (door will go here, but this angled wall
    is thicker where it meets the other wall)
    /
    __________ /

    Thanks.
    maurice, Dec 2, 2006
    #1
  2. maurice

    kevin Guest

    Well, you should of course do whatever is easiest and looks reasonably
    good and won't cause trouble down the road with other things.

    But really, the walls should all just be standard thickness. Instead of
    ending one 2x4 plate with and angle and butting it up against another
    2x4 plate with a square cut, you are supposed to cut *both* plates,
    like this (which might rival your drawing for lameness):

    _____
    /\
    ___/ \
    \ \
    \ \

    Or like this,
    _____
    \
    ______\
    \ \
    \ \

    maurice wrote:
    > Hi, all.
    >
    > I'm adding a pantry to an existing kitchen, so I'm framing some
    > non-structural partition walls, and then drywalling them. Essentially,
    > I'll end up with a neo-angle pantry, and I'd like the door in the
    > angled wall.
    >
    > When I got around to framing it in, I ran into a problem. I'm using
    > 2x4s for the walls, but when I go to install the angled wall, the
    > angled cuts in my 2x4 plate end up being wider than the other two
    > walls.
    >
    > To hang drywall, do I just build up those two walls (the difference is
    > about 1 1/4") with plywood, or is there a simple solution that I'm
    > missing?
    >
    > Funny, I've never encountered this before. I've attached about the
    > worst drawing ever produced in a newsgroup.
    >
    >
    >
    > I
    > I
    > I
    > (inside pantry) I
    > I
    > /
    > /
    > /
    > / (door will go here, but this angled wall
    > is thicker where it meets the other wall)
    > /
    > __________ /
    >
    > Thanks.
    kevin, Dec 2, 2006
    #2
  3. maurice

    Mike Paulsen Guest

    maurice wrote:
    > Hi, all.
    >
    > I'm adding a pantry to an existing kitchen, so I'm framing some
    > non-structural partition walls, and then drywalling them. Essentially,
    > I'll end up with a neo-angle pantry, and I'd like the door in the
    > angled wall.
    >
    > When I got around to framing it in, I ran into a problem. I'm using
    > 2x4s for the walls, but when I go to install the angled wall, the
    > angled cuts in my 2x4 plate end up being wider than the other two
    > walls.

    (snip)

    You won't have any problem if you miter each plate (22.5 deg) where they
    intersect. (assuming you have a 45 deg intersection). Easiest way to see
    this is to draw some lines on the floor.

    To anticipate your next post, yes you rip a 2x4 to make a solid outside
    corner.
    Mike Paulsen, Dec 2, 2006
    #3
  4. maurice

    maurice Guest

    Of course these suggestions make perfect sense, ignoring the reality
    that I built and installed both walls before starting on the angled
    wall. Truth be told, I'm a bit of a "measure once, cut twice" kind of
    person. Funny, but before I started the job, I had intended to cut the
    angles in, but completely neglected to think when I actually started
    work.

    Am I asking for trouble if, at this point, I simply drywall the two
    original walls first, then drywall the inside of the angled wall? I'm
    thinking that will only leave about 1 inch of unsupported drywall. I'm
    relatively picky (I know, tough to believe at this point), but I would
    think that this tape joint should still hold and look okay, plus it's
    on the inside of the pantry. Any thoughts?

    Thanks.
    Mike Paulsen wrote:
    > maurice wrote:
    > > Hi, all.
    > >
    > > I'm adding a pantry to an existing kitchen, so I'm framing some
    > > non-structural partition walls, and then drywalling them. Essentially,
    > > I'll end up with a neo-angle pantry, and I'd like the door in the
    > > angled wall.
    > >
    > > When I got around to framing it in, I ran into a problem. I'm using
    > > 2x4s for the walls, but when I go to install the angled wall, the
    > > angled cuts in my 2x4 plate end up being wider than the other two
    > > walls.

    > (snip)
    >
    > You won't have any problem if you miter each plate (22.5 deg) where they
    > intersect. (assuming you have a 45 deg intersection). Easiest way to see
    > this is to draw some lines on the floor.
    >
    > To anticipate your next post, yes you rip a 2x4 to make a solid outside
    > corner.
    maurice, Dec 2, 2006
    #4
  5. maurice

    Mike Paulsen Guest

    maurice wrote:
    (snip)
    >
    > Am I asking for trouble if, at this point, I simply drywall the two
    > original walls first, then drywall the inside of the angled wall? I'm
    > thinking that will only leave about 1 inch of unsupported drywall.


    It won't be a problem for the inside corner. You will, however, want to
    make sure you have solid backing behind the drywall on the outside corner.
    Mike Paulsen, Dec 2, 2006
    #5
  6. maurice

    maurice Guest

    I agree, I'll rip a 2x4 to match the angle to support the drywall.

    Thanks for the advice. Just one of those days, I guess.

    Maurice
    maurice, Dec 2, 2006
    #6
  7. maurice

    maurice Guest

    I agree, I'll rip a 2x4 to match the angle to support the drywall.

    Thanks for the advice. Just one of those days, I guess.

    Maurice
    maurice, Dec 2, 2006
    #7

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