Foam faucet covers - do they work?

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  1. Eigenvector

    Eigenvector Guest

    Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to prevent
    freezing in the winter?

    The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought my
    place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty underwear
    too!

    While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do work as
    advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does simply having
    them over the faucet work?
     
    Eigenvector, Oct 10, 2006
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  2. Eigenvector

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Eigenvector wrote:

    > Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to prevent
    > freezing in the winter?
    >
    > The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought my
    > place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty underwear
    > too!
    >
    > While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do work as
    > advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does simply having
    > them over the faucet work?
    >
    >

    Hi,
    Sounds like your exterior faucets are not self-draining type.
    You must have a shut off inside the house. and leave the faucet open.
     
    Tony Hwang, Oct 10, 2006
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  3. Eigenvector

    Eigenvector Guest

    "Tony Hwang" <> wrote in message
    news:9cBWg.121154$R63.93940@pd7urf1no...
    > Eigenvector wrote:
    >
    >> Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to
    >> prevent freezing in the winter?
    >>
    >> The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought my
    >> place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty
    >> underwear too!
    >>
    >> While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do work
    >> as advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does simply
    >> having them over the faucet work?

    > Hi,
    > Sounds like your exterior faucets are not self-draining type.
    > You must have a shut off inside the house. and leave the faucet open.


    HAH, I have a single cold water shut off in this house, at the meter. Sad
    but true, the builder didn't install any shut-offs on any of the cold water
    lines - I take that back, there is one at the hot water heater.
     
    Eigenvector, Oct 10, 2006
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  4. Eigenvector

    oklaman Guest

    i've used them and my faucets still froze.

    but better than nothing.
    "Eigenvector" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to prevent
    freezing in the winter?

    The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought my
    place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty underwear
    too!

    While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do work as
    advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does simply having
    them over the faucet work?
     
    oklaman, Oct 10, 2006
    #4
  5. Eigenvector

    Al Bundy Guest

    Tony Hwang <> wrote in
    news:9cBWg.121154$R63.93940@pd7urf1no:

    > Eigenvector wrote:
    >
    >> Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to
    >> prevent freezing in the winter?
    >>
    >> The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought
    >> my place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty
    >> underwear too!
    >>
    >> While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do
    >> work as advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does
    >> simply having them over the faucet work?
    >>
    >>

    > Hi,
    > Sounds like your exterior faucets are not self-draining type.
    > You must have a shut off inside the house. and leave the faucet open.



    Unfortunately in houses on slabs with 2x4 walls, they come into the wall
    from the exterior and that's it. The only shutoff is the main which is
    often in a closet.
     
    Al Bundy, Oct 10, 2006
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  6. Eigenvector wrote:
    > Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to prevent
    > freezing in the winter?
    >
    > The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought my
    > place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty underwear
    > too!
    >
    > While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do work as
    > advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does simply having
    > them over the faucet work?
    >
    >


    If you have good sill cocks and they are angled
    correctly to drain the water out, they won't
    freeze at least down to -20F (assuming you keep
    your house heated). If you've got those things
    use them; they obviously provide some protection.
     
    George E. Cawthon, Oct 10, 2006
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  7. Eigenvector

    buffalobill Guest

    they might work if the supply water pipe is within a warm room.

    Eigenvector wrote:
    > Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to prevent
    > freezing in the winter?
    >
    > The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought my
    > place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty underwear
    > too!
    >
    > While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do work as
    > advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does simply having
    > them over the faucet work?
     
    buffalobill, Oct 10, 2006
    #7
  8. Eigenvector

    DK Guest

    On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:41:03 -0700, "Eigenvector"
    <> wrote:

    >Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to prevent
    >freezing in the winter?
    >
    >The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought my
    >place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty underwear
    >too!
    >
    >While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do work as
    >advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does simply having
    >them over the faucet work?
    >


    I suggest you wrap the faucet and pipe with 'something' that will
    retain the warmth in ADDITION to the foam covers. If underwear is
    offensive to you then use a towel.
     
    DK, Oct 10, 2006
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  9. Eigenvector

    Guest

    >HAH, I have a single cold water shut off in this house, at the meter. Sad
    but true, the builder didn't install any shut-offs on any of the cold
    water
    lines - I take that back, there is one at the hot water heater.

    The cutoff at the hot water heater may have been installed when the hot
    water heater was replaced (I am assuming that it has been replaced at
    least once). I would add all the cutoff valves that you should have.
    At the very least do it at every faucet inside the house.
     
    , Oct 10, 2006
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  10. Eigenvector

    Goedjn Guest

    On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:41:03 -0700, "Eigenvector"
    <> wrote:

    >Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to prevent
    >freezing in the winter?
    >


    Are they that much cheaper than a shut-off valve with a waste-plug?
    And no, they won't help during an extended freeze, unless
    you're also applying heat somehow from the inside. (If your
    basement is heated, you might get enough heat conducted
    along the copper that insulating the outer end will help.)
     
    Goedjn, Oct 10, 2006
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  11. They work well in milder climates -- we rarely have extended
    temperatures below the mid-20s, and they work for a day or two at those
    temperatures. Still, iffy enough that I drained our faucets until I
    replaced them with freeze-proof faucets.

    --
    is Joshua Putnam
    <http://www.phred.org/~josh/>
    Braze your own bicycle frames. See
    <http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html>
     
    Joshua Putnam, Oct 10, 2006
    #11
  12. Eigenvector

    Eigenvector Guest

    "Goedjn" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:41:03 -0700, "Eigenvector"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to
    >>prevent
    >>freezing in the winter?
    >>

    >
    > Are they that much cheaper than a shut-off valve with a waste-plug?
    > And no, they won't help during an extended freeze, unless
    > you're also applying heat somehow from the inside. (If your
    > basement is heated, you might get enough heat conducted
    > along the copper that insulating the outer end will help.)
    >

    No I'm sure they aren't better, but I am having to fight my battles one at a
    time here. Besides, no need to do extensive plumbing if a simple styrofoam
    cover works just fine! But it sounds like they don't....
     
    Eigenvector, Oct 11, 2006
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  13. On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:41:03 -0700, "Eigenvector"
    <> wrote:

    >Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to prevent
    >freezing in the winter?
    >
    >The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought my
    >place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty underwear
    >too!
    >
    >While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do work as
    >advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does simply having
    >them over the faucet work?
    >



    If you live in an area where it gets long freezing temps, and you
    don't have time to put in freeze proof faucets, then foam covers sound
    like a way to go.

    Just an obvious tip, make sure you install them correctly, and tight.
    imho,

    tom @ www.MyFastCoolCars.com
     
    Tom The Great, Oct 11, 2006
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  14. Eigenvector wrote:
    > "Goedjn" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:41:03 -0700, "Eigenvector"
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to
    >>> prevent
    >>> freezing in the winter?
    >>>

    >> Are they that much cheaper than a shut-off valve with a waste-plug?
    >> And no, they won't help during an extended freeze, unless
    >> you're also applying heat somehow from the inside. (If your
    >> basement is heated, you might get enough heat conducted
    >> along the copper that insulating the outer end will help.)
    >>

    > No I'm sure they aren't better, but I am having to fight my battles one at a
    > time here. Besides, no need to do extensive plumbing if a simple styrofoam
    > cover works just fine! But it sounds like they don't....
    >
    >

    Here's a thought. Electronic thermometers with
    wireless remote sensors are fairly cheap. So
    stick a remote in the faucet cover and attach it
    firmly to the house. Then compare the outside
    temp with the temp in the faucet cover. It is
    beginning to get colder so you should get some
    indication of how effective the cover is.
     
    George E. Cawthon, Oct 11, 2006
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  15. Eigenvector

    Al Bundy Guest

    "Eigenvector" <> wrote in
    news::

    > Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to
    > prevent freezing in the winter?
    >
    > The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought
    > my place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty
    > underwear too!
    >
    > While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do
    > work as advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does
    > simply having them over the faucet work?
    >
    >
    >



    Assuming you cannot do it conventionally, any insullation is better than
    none. How much is another question.

    Speculation follows:

    It's my understanding that a pipe going through an opening will freeze at
    that point faster if there is a draft (airspace) on it. Makes sense since
    a draft can suck heat faster.

    I would guess putting a foam cover on it would (help) prevent heat from
    getting sucked off the faucett faster. How much? Who knows. Packing it
    loosely with insullation/pipe wrap can't hurt either. Of course, it could
    still freeze and possibly bust. If it cracks inside the wall it's gonna
    leak immediately or when the temps rise and thaw it.

    Guess the only other option is to leave it running a bit when it's super
    cold. Direct it away from the foundation would be a good thing, Don't
    want oodles of water freezing there.
     
    Al Bundy, Oct 11, 2006
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  16. Eigenvector

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Eigenvector wrote:
    > "Tony Hwang" <> wrote in message
    > news:9cBWg.121154$R63.93940@pd7urf1no...
    >
    >>Eigenvector wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to
    >>>prevent freezing in the winter?
    >>>
    >>>The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I bought my
    >>>place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things - dirty
    >>>underwear too!
    >>>
    >>>While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do work
    >>>as advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does simply
    >>>having them over the faucet work?

    >>
    >>Hi,
    >>Sounds like your exterior faucets are not self-draining type.
    >>You must have a shut off inside the house. and leave the faucet open.

    >
    >
    > HAH, I have a single cold water shut off in this house, at the meter. Sad
    > but true, the builder didn't install any shut-offs on any of the cold water
    > lines - I take that back, there is one at the hot water heater.
    >
    >

    Hmmm,
    How can they do that? Our local plumbing code requires inside shut off
    and self draining outside tap.
     
    Tony Hwang, Oct 11, 2006
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  17. Eigenvector

    Guest

    time to correct the original error and add shut offs all around home,
    just like I did, use BALL valves they always work and shut off fast! do
    cost a bit more but they dont obstruct the line at all.

    my home had none now they are everywhere, its saved me like the night
    the bathroom tub faucet decided to not shut off, we would of had no
    water at all if I hadnt added those valves......
     
    , Oct 11, 2006
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  18. Eigenvector

    Al Bundy Guest

    Tony Hwang <> wrote in
    news:wV%Wg.120986$1T2.18298@pd7urf2no:

    > Eigenvector wrote:
    >> "Tony Hwang" <> wrote in message
    >> news:9cBWg.121154$R63.93940@pd7urf1no...
    >>
    >>>Eigenvector wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Do those foam faucet covers work for exterior faucets - you know to
    >>>>prevent freezing in the winter?
    >>>>
    >>>>The previous owner had them on all the exterior faucets when I
    >>>>bought my place, had them stuffed with his underwear of all things -
    >>>>dirty underwear too!
    >>>>
    >>>>While I don't think I'll stuff them with underwear, assuming they do
    >>>>work as advertised, do I need to stuff them with something or does
    >>>>simply having them over the faucet work?
    >>>
    >>>Hi,
    >>>Sounds like your exterior faucets are not self-draining type.
    >>>You must have a shut off inside the house. and leave the faucet open.

    >>
    >>
    >> HAH, I have a single cold water shut off in this house, at the meter.
    >> Sad but true, the builder didn't install any shut-offs on any of the
    >> cold water lines - I take that back, there is one at the hot water
    >> heater.
    >>
    >>

    > Hmmm,
    > How can they do that? Our local plumbing code requires inside shut off
    > and self draining outside tap.



    Different era. Different location. Different codes.
     
    Al Bundy, Oct 11, 2006
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    Eigenvector Guest

    Re: ball valves - do they work?

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > time to correct the original error and add shut offs all around home,
    > just like I did, use BALL valves they always work and shut off fast! do
    > cost a bit more but they dont obstruct the line at all.
    >
    > my home had none now they are everywhere, its saved me like the night
    > the bathroom tub faucet decided to not shut off, we would of had no
    > water at all if I hadnt added those valves......
    >


    Actually I wanted to ask about that as well. All of the new valves that I
    install for fixtures, are 1/4 turn ball valves. I can see a gate valve
    getting stuck partially open due to buildup of scale, rust, you name it.
    But a ball valve should be relatively immune to that. It won't be immune to
    the effects of side leakage and poor tolerancing though.

    Are the ball valves worth it?
     
    Eigenvector, Oct 12, 2006
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