Fitting a socket for electric fire

Discussion in 'UK DIY' started by D.M.Chapman, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. D.M.Chapman

    D.M.Chapman Guest

    Got a fireplace being installed in a few weeks (limestone thing - SWMBO
    has sorted it) so I've now got the job of sorting out power for the
    electric fire that will be fitted in it...

    Fire comes with a normal 13A plug - and obviously don't want a wire
    trailing around the front so I was thinking of spurring form the socket
    that is on the outside of the chimney breast and going straight through
    the wall to a socket *inside* the old fireplace.

    That would be neat, and fairly easy. I was thinking of running it from a
    switch fused spur next to the existing sockets, through the chimney and
    straight into the back of a new unswitched socket - possibly an external
    rated one to be sure (something like http://preview.tinyurl.com/mk-socket
    inside the fireplace).

    Only reason to use something a bit better than a normal socket is that it's a
    bit dusty in there - nothing major (it's been open for over a year while I
    hunted for a round tuit and the front room hasn't filled with dust :)).

    Does this plan sound ok? Any better ideas? I could fit a cable outlet
    instead of a socket I guess but then I'd have to chop off the plug which
    I'd rather not do if poss.

    Given the fire just stands in the hole it's not as if the socket will be
    inaccessable.

    Cheers,

    Darren
     
    D.M.Chapman, Jan 23, 2010
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  2. "D.M.Chapman" <dmc@puffin.> wrote in message news:hjf87d$bp8$...
    >
    >
    > Got a fireplace being installed in a few weeks (limestone thing - SWMBO
    > has sorted it) so I've now got the job of sorting out power for the
    > electric fire that will be fitted in it...
    >
    > Fire comes with a normal 13A plug - and obviously don't want a wire
    > trailing around the front so I was thinking of spurring form the socket
    > that is on the outside of the chimney breast and going straight through
    > the wall to a socket *inside* the old fireplace.
    >
    > That would be neat, and fairly easy. I was thinking of running it from a
    > switch fused spur next to the existing sockets, through the chimney and
    > straight into the back of a new unswitched socket - possibly an external
    > rated one to be sure (something like http://preview.tinyurl.com/mk-socket
    > inside the fireplace).
    >
    > Only reason to use something a bit better than a normal socket is that it's a
    > bit dusty in there - nothing major (it's been open for over a year while I
    > hunted for a round tuit and the front room hasn't filled with dust :)).
    >
    > Does this plan sound ok? Any better ideas? I could fit a cable outlet
    > instead of a socket I guess but then I'd have to chop off the plug which
    > I'd rather not do if poss.
    >
    > Given the fire just stands in the hole it's not as if the socket will be
    > inaccessable.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Darren


    Instead of drilling a hole in the wall to take a lead to a spur which is next to
    existing sockets why not just fit a longer lead on the fire, run the lead through
    the hole you've drilled in the wall and fit a plug on it afterwards ?


    michael adams

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    michael adams, Jan 23, 2010
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  3. D.M.Chapman

    Bill Guest

    In message <>, michael adams
    <> writes
    >Instead of drilling a hole in the wall to take a lead to a spur which
    >is next to
    >existing sockets why not just fit a longer lead on the fire, run the
    >lead through
    >the hole you've drilled in the wall and fit a plug on it afterwards ?
    >
    >
    >michael adams



    When I did mine I had the fused spur on the outside of the fireplace and
    ran the lead from the fire into the back of it through a hole in the
    brickwork. No need then for anything extra in the fireplace. No wires
    visible at all.
    --
    Bill
     
    Bill, Jan 23, 2010
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  4. D.M.Chapman

    Owain Guest

    On 23 Jan, 16:30, dmc@puffin. (D.M.Chapman) wrote:
    > Got a fireplace being installed in a few weeks (limestone thing - SWMBO
    > has sorted it) so I've now got the job of sorting out power for the
    > electric fire that will be fitted in it...


    Is the fire actually ever going to be switched on?

    Otherwise sounds reasonable to me.

    Owain
     
    Owain, Jan 23, 2010
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  5. D.M.Chapman

    cynic Guest

    On 23 Jan, 16:30, dmc@puffin. (D.M.Chapman) wrote:
    > Got a fireplace being installed in a few weeks (limestone thing - SWMBO
    > has sorted it) so I've now got the job of sorting out power for the
    > electric fire that will be fitted in it...
    >
    > Fire comes with a normal 13A plug - and obviously don't want a wire
    > trailing around the front so I was thinking of spurring form the socket
    > that is on the outside of the chimney breast and going straight through
    > the wall to a socket *inside* the old fireplace.
    >
    > That would be neat, and fairly easy. I was thinking of running it from a
    > switch fused spur next to the existing sockets, through the chimney and
    > straight into the back of a new unswitched socket - possibly an external
    > rated one to be sure (something likehttp://preview.tinyurl.com/mk-socket
    > inside the fireplace).
    >
    > Only reason to use something a bit better than a normal socket is that it's a
    > bit dusty in there - nothing major (it's been open for over a year while I
    > hunted for a round tuit and the front room hasn't filled with dust :)).
    >
    > Does this plan sound ok? Any better ideas? I could fit a cable outlet
    > instead of a socket I guess but then I'd have to chop off the plug which
    > I'd rather not do if poss.
    >
    > Given the fire just stands in the hole it's not as if the socket will be
    > inaccessable.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Darren


    Sounds perfectly reasonable and your choice of socket will ensure no
    problems from sparging or water coming down the chimney under extreme
    conditions.
    Do check your earth loop continuity after installing wont you
     
    cynic, Jan 23, 2010
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  6. D.M.Chapman

    Lobster Guest

    Bill wrote:
    > In message <>, michael adams
    > <> writes
    >> Instead of drilling a hole in the wall to take a lead to a spur which
    >> is next to
    >> existing sockets why not just fit a longer lead on the fire, run the
    >> lead through
    >> the hole you've drilled in the wall and fit a plug on it afterwards ?

    >
    > When I did mine I had the fused spur on the outside of the fireplace and
    > ran the lead from the fire into the back of it through a hole in the
    > brickwork. No need then for anything extra in the fireplace. No wires
    > visible at all.


    Just wot I did. Easier (and cheaper TBH) than a waterproof socket
    inside the fireplace. (Got tested as part of the whole house inspection
    by an electrician and passed no problems)

    David
     
    Lobster, Jan 24, 2010
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  7. D.M.Chapman

    D.M.Chapman Guest

    In article <w%M6n.30809$>,
    Lobster <> wrote:

    >Just wot I did. Easier (and cheaper TBH) than a waterproof socket
    >inside the fireplace. (Got tested as part of the whole house inspection
    >by an electrician and passed no problems)



    Good good. I'll probably go with the socket in the fireplace anyway as
    a) I've already got a spare MK external socket and b) I'm not sure the
    cable on the fire would be long enough (if I've got to add an extension
    to the cable I may as well used fixed wiring for it).

    Cheers all,

    Darren
     
    D.M.Chapman, Jan 24, 2010
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