Earth Bonding Stainless Steel Sink

Discussion in 'Misc DIY' started by Brian Wood, Feb 18, 2007.

  1. Brian Wood

    Brian Wood Guest

    When a kitchen sink is earth bonded, is it sufficient to simply connect the
    cable to the cold water pipe under the sink via a bonding strap?

    The reason I ask is that the mother in-law has just had this done and the
    sparky has done just that. My thinking was that the sink has to be
    physically bonded as well via a tag fitted to most sinks during manufacture.
    Just connecting the pipe would not properly bond the sink as well in my
    mind.

    Any thoughts?

    Many Thanks
    Brian
     
    Brian Wood, Feb 18, 2007
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  2. Brian Wood

    ARWadsworth Guest

    "Brian Wood" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > When a kitchen sink is earth bonded, is it sufficient to simply connect
    > the cable to the cold water pipe under the sink via a bonding strap?
    >
    > The reason I ask is that the mother in-law has just had this done and the
    > sparky has done just that. My thinking was that the sink has to be
    > physically bonded as well via a tag fitted to most sinks during
    > manufacture. Just connecting the pipe would not properly bond the sink as
    > well in my mind.
    >
    > Any thoughts?


    The sparky has wasted his time and/or your MILs money. There is no
    requirment in the 16th edition to supplementary bond (no such thing as earth
    bond) a kitchen sink.

    The ideas of bonding kitchen sinks goes back to the 15th edition

    Adam
     
    ARWadsworth, Feb 18, 2007
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  3. Brian Wood

    Brian Wood Guest

    "ARWadsworth" <> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Brian Wood" <> wrote in message
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    >> When a kitchen sink is earth bonded, is it sufficient to simply connect
    >> the cable to the cold water pipe under the sink via a bonding strap?
    >>
    >> The reason I ask is that the mother in-law has just had this done and the
    >> sparky has done just that. My thinking was that the sink has to be
    >> physically bonded as well via a tag fitted to most sinks during
    >> manufacture. Just connecting the pipe would not properly bond the sink as
    >> well in my mind.
    >>
    >> Any thoughts?

    >
    > The sparky has wasted his time and/or your MILs money. There is no
    > requirment in the 16th edition to supplementary bond (no such thing as
    > earth bond) a kitchen sink.
    >
    > The ideas of bonding kitchen sinks goes back to the 15th edition
    >
    > Adam



    Thanks for the reply.

    This is interesting as the work was done by British Gas when they fitted a
    new boiler. They said that they had to bond the gas meter and the kitchen
    sink to the main earth connection at the consumer unit. This work was
    necessary before they would carry out any work on their property. Gonna
    speak to the guy tomorrow as there is another problem.

    Cheers
    Brian
     
    Brian Wood, Feb 18, 2007
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  4. Brian Wood

    ARWadsworth Guest

    "Brian Wood" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "ARWadsworth" <> wrote in message
    > news:cy0Ch.2516$...
    >>
    >> "Brian Wood" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> When a kitchen sink is earth bonded, is it sufficient to simply connect
    >>> the cable to the cold water pipe under the sink via a bonding strap?
    >>>
    >>> The reason I ask is that the mother in-law has just had this done and
    >>> the sparky has done just that. My thinking was that the sink has to be
    >>> physically bonded as well via a tag fitted to most sinks during
    >>> manufacture. Just connecting the pipe would not properly bond the sink
    >>> as well in my mind.
    >>>
    >>> Any thoughts?

    >>
    >> The sparky has wasted his time and/or your MILs money. There is no
    >> requirment in the 16th edition to supplementary bond (no such thing as
    >> earth bond) a kitchen sink.
    >>
    >> The ideas of bonding kitchen sinks goes back to the 15th edition
    >>
    >> Adam

    >
    >
    > Thanks for the reply.
    >
    > This is interesting as the work was done by British Gas when they fitted a
    > new boiler. They said that they had to bond the gas meter and the kitchen
    > sink to the main earth connection at the consumer unit. This work was
    > necessary before they would carry out any work on their property. Gonna
    > speak to the guy tomorrow as there is another problem.
    >

    Main equipotential bonding to the gas is essential work. I am glad it has
    been done.

    Adam
     
    ARWadsworth, Feb 19, 2007
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  5. Brian Wood

    Guest

    ARWadsworth <> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> The ideas of bonding kitchen sinks goes back to the 15th edition
    > >>
    > >> Adam

    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks for the reply.
    > >
    > > This is interesting as the work was done by British Gas when they fitted a
    > > new boiler. They said that they had to bond the gas meter and the kitchen
    > > sink to the main earth connection at the consumer unit. This work was
    > > necessary before they would carry out any work on their property. Gonna
    > > speak to the guy tomorrow as there is another problem.
    > >

    > Main equipotential bonding to the gas is essential work. I am glad it has
    > been done.
    >

    They (British Gas) might have meant that the incoming water main
    should be bonded. This *is* a requirement, as it is for the incoming
    gas main. As the water main often enters the house underneath the
    kitchen sink maybe this explains it.

    --
    Chris Green
     
    , Feb 19, 2007
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  6. Brian Wood

    AlanG Guest

    On 19 Feb 2007 09:01:31 GMT, wrote:

    >ARWadsworth <> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> The ideas of bonding kitchen sinks goes back to the 15th edition
    >> >>
    >> >> Adam
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Thanks for the reply.
    >> >
    >> > This is interesting as the work was done by British Gas when they fitted a
    >> > new boiler. They said that they had to bond the gas meter and the kitchen
    >> > sink to the main earth connection at the consumer unit. This work was
    >> > necessary before they would carry out any work on their property. Gonna
    >> > speak to the guy tomorrow as there is another problem.
    >> >

    >> Main equipotential bonding to the gas is essential work. I am glad it has
    >> been done.
    >>

    >They (British Gas) might have meant that the incoming water main
    >should be bonded. This *is* a requirement, as it is for the incoming
    >gas main. As the water main often enters the house underneath the
    >kitchen sink maybe this explains it.


    And if the water main is plastic?
     
    AlanG, Feb 19, 2007
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  7. Brian Wood

    Brian Wood Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:45d9676b$0$756$...
    > ARWadsworth <> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> The ideas of bonding kitchen sinks goes back to the 15th edition
    >> >>
    >> >> Adam
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Thanks for the reply.
    >> >
    >> > This is interesting as the work was done by British Gas when they
    >> > fitted a
    >> > new boiler. They said that they had to bond the gas meter and the
    >> > kitchen
    >> > sink to the main earth connection at the consumer unit. This work was
    >> > necessary before they would carry out any work on their property. Gonna
    >> > speak to the guy tomorrow as there is another problem.
    >> >

    >> Main equipotential bonding to the gas is essential work. I am glad it has
    >> been done.
    >>

    > They (British Gas) might have meant that the incoming water main
    > should be bonded. This *is* a requirement, as it is for the incoming
    > gas main. As the water main often enters the house underneath the
    > kitchen sink maybe this explains it.
    >
    > --
    > Chris Green


    Thanks for the info guys.

    Brian
     
    Brian Wood, Feb 19, 2007
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  8. Brian Wood

    ARWadsworth Guest

    "AlanG" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On 19 Feb 2007 09:01:31 GMT, wrote:
    >
    >>ARWadsworth <> wrote:
    >>> >>
    >>> >> The ideas of bonding kitchen sinks goes back to the 15th edition
    >>> >>
    >>> >> Adam
    >>> >
    >>> >
    >>> > Thanks for the reply.
    >>> >
    >>> > This is interesting as the work was done by British Gas when they
    >>> > fitted a
    >>> > new boiler. They said that they had to bond the gas meter and the
    >>> > kitchen
    >>> > sink to the main earth connection at the consumer unit. This work was
    >>> > necessary before they would carry out any work on their property.
    >>> > Gonna
    >>> > speak to the guy tomorrow as there is another problem.
    >>> >
    >>> Main equipotential bonding to the gas is essential work. I am glad it
    >>> has
    >>> been done.
    >>>

    >>They (British Gas) might have meant that the incoming water main
    >>should be bonded. This *is* a requirement, as it is for the incoming
    >>gas main. As the water main often enters the house underneath the
    >>kitchen sink maybe this explains it.

    >
    > And if the water main is plastic?


    You would still need to main bond if the pipework in the house is metal.
    Only if all the pipework is plastic do you not need to bond.

    Adam
     
    ARWadsworth, Feb 20, 2007
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  9. Brian Wood

    AlanG Guest

    On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:18:52 GMT, "ARWadsworth"
    <> wrote:

    >
    >"AlanG" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> On 19 Feb 2007 09:01:31 GMT, wrote:
    >>
    >>>ARWadsworth <> wrote:
    >>>> >>



    >>>They (British Gas) might have meant that the incoming water main
    >>>should be bonded. This *is* a requirement, as it is for the incoming
    >>>gas main. As the water main often enters the house underneath the
    >>>kitchen sink maybe this explains it.

    >>
    >> And if the water main is plastic?

    >
    >You would still need to main bond if the pipework in the house is metal.
    >Only if all the pipework is plastic do you not need to bond.
    >

    It was the *requirement* for incoming water main to be bonded I
    queried
     
    AlanG, Feb 20, 2007
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  10. Brian Wood

    ARWadsworth Guest

    "AlanG" <> wrote in message
    news:...

    >>> And if the water main is plastic?

    >>
    >>You would still need to main bond if the pipework in the house is metal.
    >>Only if all the pipework is plastic do you not need to bond.
    >>

    > It was the *requirement* for incoming water main to be bonded I
    > queried


    That is what I thought I answed. Lets me clear things up so that we are on
    the same wavelength and I apologise for being unclear.

    "You would still need to main bond if the pipework in the house is metal.
    Only if all the pipework is plastic do you not need to bond."

    should have read

    "You would still need to main bond the water if the pipework in the house is
    metal and the incoming supply is plastic. The same applies when the incoming
    water is metal and the house is done in plastic.
    Only if all the pipework (internal and external) is plastic then you do not
    need to bond."

    Of course as gas piping within a domestic property will be in metal as
    plastic is not allowed this will require bonding at all times.

    HTH make things clearer.

    Cheers

    Adam
     
    ARWadsworth, Feb 20, 2007
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