Condensing Tumble Driers

Discussion in 'UK DIY' started by Mick, Oct 9, 2003.

  1. Mick

    Mick Guest

    Has anybody any major opinions on these good or Bad ?.
    I currently have a vented tumble drier that is nearing the end of its life
    (but still usable)...I would like to get another drier and run them both
    until the orig one packs up (lots of kids and lots of washing !!!)
    I do not want to hammer another hole in the garage wall (double brick)
    So a Condensing Tumble drier seems ideal for the moment.
    I am thinking a fairly cheap one (£189 ish at comet/Miller Bros).
    Do you think this is a good idea ?
    Regards
    Mick, Oct 9, 2003
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  2. In message <bm4gan$24re$>, Mick <>
    writes
    >Has anybody any major opinions on these good or Bad ?.
    >I currently have a vented tumble drier that is nearing the end of its life
    >(but still usable)...I would like to get another drier and run them both
    >until the orig one packs up (lots of kids and lots of washing !!!)
    >I do not want to hammer another hole in the garage wall (double brick)
    >So a Condensing Tumble drier seems ideal for the moment.
    >I am thinking a fairly cheap one (£189 ish at comet/Miller Bros).
    >Do you think this is a good idea ?


    Only you can decide that.

    We have a condensing t-d. A Zanussi. It's been no trouble in the n years
    ( >5) that we've had it but they're less efficient and so cost more to
    run than the vented type and they're more complex so there's more to go
    wrong, but we had no choice. T-D's are hardly difficult to obtain, if
    your existing one has been enough so far I'd wait until it packed up and
    then replace it with another vented.

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    dave @ stejonda
    dave @ stejonda, Oct 9, 2003
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  3. Mick

    Thee_Psycho Guest

    I can only tell you what we have found from the previous owner of our house.
    We live in a 2 bed mid terrace, only 10 years old, prettty well insulated.
    It was occupied by a family of four, in the small kitchen there was a
    washing machine one and and a condesing dryer the other. When we came oto
    view the house it felt damp, despite it being a dry week all the windows
    were open etc, but the air in the house was damp. Upstairs under the eves,
    by the window there was mildew, only house on the estate with it, and there
    are similar sized families living in them the only thing we can putit down
    to is the dryer. Since we moved in and have not got a tumble dryer the house
    has been fresher and dryer. We removed the mildew and to date not a sigle
    sign of it returning.

    I am afraid I do not know the model, but i know it was a candy machine.

    HTH


    Rach
    "Mick" <> wrote in message
    news:bm4gan$24re$...
    > Has anybody any major opinions on these good or Bad ?.
    > I currently have a vented tumble drier that is nearing the end of its life
    > (but still usable)...I would like to get another drier and run them both
    > until the orig one packs up (lots of kids and lots of washing !!!)
    > I do not want to hammer another hole in the garage wall (double brick)
    > So a Condensing Tumble drier seems ideal for the moment.
    > I am thinking a fairly cheap one (£189 ish at comet/Miller Bros).
    > Do you think this is a good idea ?
    > Regards
    >
    >
    Thee_Psycho, Oct 9, 2003
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  4. Mick

    Suz Guest

    > Has anybody any major opinions on these good or Bad ?.
    > I currently have a vented tumble drier that is nearing the end of its life
    > (but still usable)...I would like to get another drier and run them both
    > until the orig one packs up (lots of kids and lots of washing !!!)
    > I do not want to hammer another hole in the garage wall (double brick)
    > So a Condensing Tumble drier seems ideal for the moment.
    > I am thinking a fairly cheap one (£189 ish at comet/Miller Bros).
    > Do you think this is a good idea ?
    > Regards
    >

    We have one and I love it. It wasn't cheap, as when we looked at the
    features we started adding things to our list of requirements! The features
    that I think are important are:
    1. Sensor that knows when enough moisture has been drawn out and stops
    2. Reverse action drum. Goes one way and then the other, so clothes don't
    get twisted.
    3. Turns drum over once every five minutes once cycle is over, so clothes
    don't crease.
    All these features because I don't "believe" in ironing. These features
    ensure smooth clothes.

    We chose condensor as it was an extra put in the corner of our bedroom
    (really need to extend!), and we didn't want to plumb or vent. It can be
    plumbed to empty the water, but we just empty the tank every 3 loads or so.
    An added unexpected bonus - it puts the baby to sleep in seconds (and mummy)
    and adds a nice wee warm fug to the room :) I like having it in our
    bedroom as clothes get put on hangers and straight into the wardrobe and
    there is no laundry hanging about waiting to be taken upstairs. Also I
    haven't ironed in 3 months. I now only buy tumble dryable clothes and as
    for old stuff, well, if it doesn't survive it goes in the bin!

    When we renovate I intend moving both washing machine and tumble dryer
    upstairs permanently. It makes no sense to have dirty laundry upstairs,
    take it down to wash and dry, and then cart back up again. Things end up
    dangling on radiators sitting in piles etc. Why are they traditionally in
    kitchens or utility rooms downstairs? Very illogical. I intend to
    streamline the whole process: into basket, into machine, into dryer, on
    hanger, into wardrobe. Downstairs will be laundry free! No ironing, no
    piles.
    I would recommend an expensive model if you don't intend to iron, and a
    cheaper one if you do. The more sensitive dearer models leave just a tiny
    bit of moisture behind so clothes do not wrinkle.

    It adds £200 a year to our electicity bill. No ironing? Family of five?
    Well worth every penny! I HATE ironing.
    Suz, Oct 9, 2003
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  5. Mick

    S Viemeister Guest

    Suz wrote:
    >
    > When we renovate I intend moving both washing machine and tumble dryer
    > upstairs permanently. It makes no sense to have dirty laundry upstairs,
    > take it down to wash and dry, and then cart back up again. Things end up
    > dangling on radiators sitting in piles etc. Why are they traditionally in
    > kitchens or utility rooms downstairs? Very illogical. I intend to
    > streamline the whole process: into basket, into machine, into dryer, on
    > hanger, into wardrobe. Downstairs will be laundry free! No ironing, no
    > piles.
    >

    That's how my son's house is arranged. The washer and dryer are behind
    folding doors in the upstairs hall, near the main bedroom, and right next
    to the linen cupboard.
    Very sensible arrangement.

    Sheila
    S Viemeister, Oct 9, 2003
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  6. Mick

    IMM Guest

    "Suz" <> wrote in message
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    > When we renovate I intend moving both washing machine and tumble dryer
    > upstairs permanently. It makes no sense to have dirty laundry upstairs,
    > take it down to wash and dry, and then cart back up again. Things end up
    > dangling on radiators sitting in piles etc. Why are they traditionally in
    > kitchens or utility rooms downstairs? Very illogical.


    The Scandinavians think the same way. They have the laundry in the
    bathroom, or in a separate room upstairs.




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  7. Mick

    IMM Guest

    "Mick" <> wrote in message
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    > Has anybody any major opinions on these good or Bad ?.
    > I currently have a vented tumble drier that is nearing the end of its life
    > (but still usable)...I would like to get another drier and run them both
    > until the orig one packs up (lots of kids and lots of washing !!!)
    > I do not want to hammer another hole in the garage wall (double brick)
    > So a Condensing Tumble drier seems ideal for the moment.
    > I am thinking a fairly cheap one (£189 ish at comet/Miller Bros).
    > Do you think this is a good idea ?


    NO!!! Cheap condensing dryers are a waste of space. Get a Bosch, and no
    less.



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  8. Mick

    IMM Guest

    "dave @ stejonda" <> wrote in message
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    > In message <bm4gan$24re$>, Mick <>
    > writes
    > >Has anybody any major opinions on these good or Bad ?.
    > >I currently have a vented tumble drier that is nearing the end of its

    life
    > >(but still usable)...I would like to get another drier and run them both
    > >until the orig one packs up (lots of kids and lots of washing !!!)
    > >I do not want to hammer another hole in the garage wall (double brick)
    > >So a Condensing Tumble drier seems ideal for the moment.
    > >I am thinking a fairly cheap one (£189 ish at comet/Miller Bros).
    > >Do you think this is a good idea ?

    >
    > Only you can decide that.
    >
    > We have a condensing t-d. A Zanussi. It's been no trouble in the n years
    > ( >5) that we've had it but they're less efficient and so cost more to
    > run than the vented type


    The heat is pumped into the house, so aids your heating in winter. Not as
    expensive as you think.


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  9. In article <3f85b718$0$32233$>, Suz
    <> writes
    >It adds £200 a year to our electicity bill. No ironing? Family of five?
    >Well worth every penny! I HATE ironing.


    Is this really true - no ironing? mens shirts, T shirts??

    I spen about £10 - £15 a week on having stuff ironed, (and it's worth
    evry penny <g>), travelling to and from the shop twice aswell.

    If I could be sure a tumble dryer could do what you say, I would have
    one!!

    What make and model? How much £? Can you get a washer dryer with these
    features?

    This could be a dream come true - a bit like a dishwasher <g>

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    Richard Faulkner, Oct 10, 2003
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  10. Mick

    Tim Morley Guest

    "IMM" <> wrote in message
    news:bm4pri$ne5$...
    >
    > "Mick" <> wrote in message
    > news:bm4gan$24re$...
    > > Has anybody any major opinions on these good or Bad ?.
    > > I currently have a vented tumble drier that is nearing the end of its

    life
    > > (but still usable)...I would like to get another drier and run them both
    > > until the orig one packs up (lots of kids and lots of washing !!!)
    > > I do not want to hammer another hole in the garage wall (double brick)
    > > So a Condensing Tumble drier seems ideal for the moment.
    > > I am thinking a fairly cheap one (£189 ish at comet/Miller Bros).
    > > Do you think this is a good idea ?

    >
    > NO!!! Cheap condensing dryers are a waste of space. Get a Bosch, and no
    > less.
    >
    > I


    I Have the bosch classixx condensor - EXCELLENT!



    >
    Tim Morley, Oct 10, 2003
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  11. Mick

    N. Thornton Guest

    > "Mick" <> wrote in message
    > news:bm4gan$24re$...
    > > Has anybody any major opinions on these good or Bad ?.
    > > I currently have a vented tumble drier that is nearing the end of its life
    > > (but still usable)...I would like to get another drier and run them both
    > > until the orig one packs up (lots of kids and lots of washing !!!)
    > > I do not want to hammer another hole in the garage wall (double brick)
    > > So a Condensing Tumble drier seems ideal for the moment.
    > > I am thinking a fairly cheap one (£189 ish at comet/Miller Bros).
    > > Do you think this is a good idea ?


    Condensing driers are much more energy efficient. Instead of blowing
    hot air outside they reuse it round and round, just extracting the
    water content. They dont blow heat out at all.

    However, a fast spin washer is more sensible in most cases. With 1300
    or 1400 spin you dont need a tumble.

    Regards, NT
    N. Thornton, Oct 10, 2003
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  12. Mick

    S Viemeister Guest

    Christian McArdle wrote:

    > If you intend to put a washer in
    > upstairs, make some sort of arrangement to collect any leaked water before
    > it damages anything. Some sort of wet floor or collection tray arrangement
    > plumbed to an overflow through the wall would be good.
    >

    That's exactly the arrangement my son's washer has.

    I wonder why I've never seen something similar for the tanks/cisterns in
    lofts?
    S Viemeister, Oct 10, 2003
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  13. Mick

    Neil Jones Guest

    "IMM" <> wrote in message news:<bm4pri$ne5$>...

    >
    > NO!!! Cheap condensing dryers are a waste of space. Get a Bosch, and no
    > less.
    >


    Eh? Surely you mean:
    "NO!!!- buy two cheap dryers instead. Dry washing twice as quickly as
    with one expensive one. Then when the first one breaks you have no
    downtime."
    Neil Jones, Oct 10, 2003
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  14. Mick

    IMM Guest

    "Neil Jones" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > "IMM" <> wrote in message

    news:<bm4pri$ne5$>...
    >
    > >
    > > NO!!! Cheap condensing dryers are a waste of space. Get a Bosch, and

    no
    > > less.
    > >

    >
    > Eh? Surely you mean:
    > "NO!!!- buy two cheap dryers instead. Dry washing twice as quickly as
    > with one expensive one. Then when the first one breaks you have no
    > downtime."


    No! I mean "Cheap condensing dryers are a waste of space. Get a Bosch, and
    no less." It to do what it is supposed to do. That is dispense the
    moisture in the tray. Cheap ones do not. Got it?



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  15. Mick

    Suz Guest

    "Richard Faulkner" <> wrote in message
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    > In article <3f85b718$0$32233$>, Suz
    > <> writes
    > >It adds £200 a year to our electicity bill. No ironing? Family of five?
    > >Well worth every penny! I HATE ironing.

    >
    > Is this really true - no ironing? mens shirts, T shirts??
    >
    > I spen about £10 - £15 a week on having stuff ironed, (and it's worth
    > evry penny <g>), travelling to and from the shop twice aswell.
    >
    > If I could be sure a tumble dryer could do what you say, I would have
    > one!!
    >
    > What make and model? How much £? Can you get a washer dryer with these
    > features?


    Yes it works for me, really and truly.

    The first thing that made me consider dumping ironing was when I discovered
    my MIL never ironed. She had five kids and always looks pristine. She
    removed a wash immediately and tugged the clothes straight immediately and
    put them on a radiator. She then hung them when they were 95% dry. I was
    entirely amazed -they are all neat and flat.

    The trick is to take the wash out immediately and tumble it. Again hang as
    soon as the tumble dryer stops for best results. At this point they have
    tiny creases and look like they need a wee iron, but don't shove into the
    wardrobe immediately, but give them five mintes in the air 1st. When you
    take them out of the wardrobe you can't tell them apart from from ironed
    stuff. I started this out of necessity as I was so busy with 3 wee kids.
    Now it just seems daft to iron at all.

    You can't get a crease down the arm of a shirt/ trousers if you are that
    kind of stuffy person tho. And Marks and Sparks Italian shirts come out
    crumpled. Hubby has 2. I shoved them in the wardrobe and refused to iron
    them. He ignores them and thay have been left there. Low iron or no iron
    shirts work best. Avoid any clothes that need ironed at two dots or 3 dots
    on the iron symbol, or one that needs ironed while damp. Some of these do
    come out OK, but most are unlikely too.
    The same goes for things that are non-tumble dryable. Although its the 1st
    thing I look at when buying, we do have some. I toss them all in, saves
    time not having to sort into can and can't tumble piles, and if they die,
    they die. They didn't deserve to live if they want ironed. I'm heartless
    like that... So far no casualties tho.

    Another thing is the fabric conditioner. You need to use it. I only use
    Comfort. I have used standard, Easy-iron and the new Quick dry and there is
    a difference. From an ironing point of view, Easy Iron has the best
    results. But the clothes feel a tiny bit slimy coming out of the wash and
    sometimes they need 2 goes of the tumble dryer - they are slow to dry.
    Quick Dry does indeed dry quickern (a lot quicker) which saves on
    electricity, but you get a slightly less flat appearance. Still acceptable
    for most clothes though. Ordinary comfort is in between. You definitely
    need some fabric conditioner though, so if you are allergic this is not for
    you.

    Our tumble is a Hotpoint TDC60 and it cost £329, after shopping around on
    the internet. Can't remember which one we got from in the end, maybe
    appliancedirect?

    A washer dryer will consume more electricty as it has to dry itself. Not
    good for a busy family - A wash and dry cycle takes about 2 hours. At 3
    washes a day for us, it just wouldn't work. For a bloke on his own it would
    be great. Stick it on the morning and it's all down when you come home.
    The "keep turning after drying complete" option would be vital in this case
    to avoid ironing.

    Must go. Tumble dryer just finished it's cycle. :eek:)

    hth
    Suzanne
    Suz, Oct 11, 2003
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  16. Mick

    Suz Guest

    "N. Thornton" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > > "Mick" <> wrote in message
    > > news:bm4gan$24re$...
    > > > Has anybody any major opinions on these good or Bad ?.
    > > > I currently have a vented tumble drier that is nearing the end of its

    life
    > > > (but still usable)...I would like to get another drier and run them

    both
    > > > until the orig one packs up (lots of kids and lots of washing !!!)
    > > > I do not want to hammer another hole in the garage wall (double brick)
    > > > So a Condensing Tumble drier seems ideal for the moment.
    > > > I am thinking a fairly cheap one (£189 ish at comet/Miller Bros).
    > > > Do you think this is a good idea ?

    >
    > Condensing driers are much more energy efficient. Instead of blowing
    > hot air outside they reuse it round and round, just extracting the
    > water content. They dont blow heat out at all.
    >
    > However, a fast spin washer is more sensible in most cases. With 1300
    > or 1400 spin you dont need a tumble.


    I disagree. I think a fast spin mashes creases in. Fine if you love
    ironing.
    I HATE ironing.
    Suz, Oct 11, 2003
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  17. In article <3f87e089$0$60307$>, Suz
    <> writes
    >Our tumble is a Hotpoint TDC60 and it cost £329, after shopping around on
    >the internet. Can't remember which one we got from in the end, maybe
    >appliancedirect?
    >
    >A washer dryer will consume more electricty as it has to dry itself. Not
    >good for a busy family - A wash and dry cycle takes about 2 hours. At 3
    >washes a day for us, it just wouldn't work. For a bloke on his own it would
    >be great. Stick it on the morning and it's all down when you come home.
    >The "keep turning after drying complete" option would be vital in this case
    >to avoid ironing.


    Sounds like the business - I'm off to have a look!

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    Richard Faulkner, Oct 11, 2003
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  18. Mick

    IMM Guest

    "Suz" <> wrote in message
    news:3f87e089$0$60307$...
    >
    > "Richard Faulkner" <> wrote in message
    > news:W6auSVAdofh$...
    > > In article <3f85b718$0$32233$>, Suz
    > > <> writes
    > > >It adds £200 a year to our electicity bill. No ironing? Family of

    five?
    > > >Well worth every penny! I HATE ironing.

    > >
    > > Is this really true - no ironing? mens shirts, T shirts??
    > >
    > > I spen about £10 - £15 a week on having stuff ironed, (and it's worth
    > > evry penny <g>), travelling to and from the shop twice aswell.
    > >
    > > If I could be sure a tumble dryer could do what you say, I would have
    > > one!!
    > >
    > > What make and model? How much £? Can you get a washer dryer with these
    > > features?

    >
    > Yes it works for me, really and truly.
    >
    > The first thing that made me consider dumping ironing was when I

    discovered
    > my MIL never ironed. She had five kids and always looks pristine. She
    > removed a wash immediately and tugged the clothes straight immediately and
    > put them on a radiator. She then hung them when they were 95% dry. I was
    > entirely amazed -they are all neat and flat.
    >
    > The trick is to take the wash out immediately and tumble it. Again hang

    as
    > soon as the tumble dryer stops for best results. At this point they have
    > tiny creases and look like they need a wee iron, but don't shove into the
    > wardrobe immediately, but give them five mintes in the air 1st. When you
    > take them out of the wardrobe you can't tell them apart from from ironed
    > stuff. I started this out of necessity as I was so busy with 3 wee kids.
    > Now it just seems daft to iron at all.
    >
    > You can't get a crease down the arm of a shirt/ trousers if you are that
    > kind of stuffy person tho. And Marks and Sparks Italian shirts come out
    > crumpled. Hubby has 2. I shoved them in the wardrobe and refused to iron
    > them. He ignores them and thay have been left there. Low iron or no iron
    > shirts work best. Avoid any clothes that need ironed at two dots or 3

    dots
    > on the iron symbol, or one that needs ironed while damp. Some of these do
    > come out OK, but most are unlikely too.
    > The same goes for things that are non-tumble dryable. Although its the

    1st
    > thing I look at when buying, we do have some. I toss them all in, saves
    > time not having to sort into can and can't tumble piles, and if they die,
    > they die. They didn't deserve to live if they want ironed. I'm heartless
    > like that... So far no casualties tho.
    >
    > Another thing is the fabric conditioner. You need to use it. I only use
    > Comfort. I have used standard, Easy-iron and the new Quick dry and there

    is
    > a difference. From an ironing point of view, Easy Iron has the best
    > results. But the clothes feel a tiny bit slimy coming out of the wash and
    > sometimes they need 2 goes of the tumble dryer - they are slow to dry.
    > Quick Dry does indeed dry quickern (a lot quicker) which saves on
    > electricity, but you get a slightly less flat appearance. Still

    acceptable
    > for most clothes though. Ordinary comfort is in between. You definitely
    > need some fabric conditioner though, so if you are allergic this is not

    for
    > you.
    >
    > Our tumble is a Hotpoint TDC60 and it cost £329, after shopping around on
    > the internet. Can't remember which one we got from in the end, maybe
    > appliancedirect?
    >
    > A washer dryer will consume more electricty as it has to dry itself. Not
    > good for a busy family - A wash and dry cycle takes about 2 hours. At 3
    > washes a day for us, it just wouldn't work. For a bloke on his own it

    would
    > be great. Stick it on the morning and it's all down when you come home.
    > The "keep turning after drying complete" option would be vital in this

    case
    > to avoid ironing.
    >
    > Must go. Tumble dryer just finished it's cycle. :eek:)


    Does this tumble and use Comfort only work on condensing dryers?


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  19. Mick

    Suz Guest

    > > A washer dryer will consume more electricty as it has to dry itself.
    Not
    > > good for a busy family - A wash and dry cycle takes about 2 hours. At 3
    > > washes a day for us, it just wouldn't work. For a bloke on his own it

    > would
    > > be great. Stick it on the morning and it's all down when you come home.
    > > The "keep turning after drying complete" option would be vital in this

    > case
    > > to avoid ironing.
    > >
    > > Must go. Tumble dryer just finished it's cycle. :eek:)

    >
    > Does this tumble and use Comfort only work on condensing dryers?
    >

    No IMM I'm sure it would be exactly the same on a bog standard one. The
    only reason we got one is its location - shoved in the corner of the room as
    a temporary measure (but I reckon it'll be permenant). We could be bothered
    putting in a drain or vent.

    But again the extra features like moisture sensor to stop, and keep turning
    after cycle complete would be necessary for best results if you wish to
    avoid ironing. The extra cost would be recouped easily if you compared it to
    a years electricity consumption of an iron or the cost of an ironing
    service. My mother's is the cheapest, timer only job. It absolutely toasts
    the clothes and although they come out really dry they look a bit crumply.
    I thought ours wasn't very efficient at first, but now I realise that tiny
    bit of moisture left allows the last wrinkles to drop when clothes are
    removed from dryer.

    The lulling sound of the dryer is an great unexpected bonus. I'm sitting on
    the bed with the laptop now, and hubby is snoozing off one of his migraines
    and baby is SNORING in his cot. The soft sound is very relaxing. Reminds
    me of a kid in the farmhouse when all was quiet and the kettle was singing
    on the Rayburn Royal. My point being: I think the bedroom is a brilliant
    location for a dryer.

    hth
    Suzanne
    Suz, Oct 11, 2003
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  20. In article <bm4gan$24re$>, Mick <> wrote:
    >Has anybody any major opinions on these good or Bad ?.
    >I currently have a vented tumble drier that is nearing the end of its life
    >(but still usable)...I would like to get another drier and run them both
    >until the orig one packs up (lots of kids and lots of washing !!!)
    >I do not want to hammer another hole in the garage wall (double brick)
    >So a Condensing Tumble drier seems ideal for the moment.
    >I am thinking a fairly cheap one (£189 ish at comet/Miller Bros).
    >Do you think this is a good idea ?
    >Regards
    >

    Could get a large gas dryer. We bought one second hand for £70 (loot.com).
    Get a handyman with a hole cutter to make hole or rent one. Get plumber to
    connect gas, or you do it and get a plumber to check it out. Should come
    to around the £200 mark and it's way cheaper than electricity.
    Neil>
    Niel A. Farrow, Oct 11, 2003
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