bugs in unopened bag of rice

Discussion in 'Home Repair' started by Carol S., Dec 4, 2004.

  1. Carol S.

    Carol S. Guest

    Hi,

    I had a bag of brown rice in my pantry for a long time (over a year)
    that was unopened. I finally decided to try it out, but when I poured
    it into a pot, there were little brown bugs crawling around it, and
    the rice grains were hollowed out. I threw it out, of course!

    I'm pretty sure they were rice weevils, based on a google search. My
    question is do I have to throw out everything in my pantry now? I
    inspected a few other things and didn't see any signs of the bugs.
    Could they have just come along in that bag of rice to begin with, and
    then just stayed there? How can they live in a plastic bag for a
    year with no air or water?

    Thanks, Carol Scheible
    Carol S., Dec 4, 2004
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  2. Carol S.

    twfsa Guest

    We had some bugs in rice, pasta,flour, threw it all away, then put flour in
    the refrigerator, layed some bay leaves on the shelves in various areas of
    the pantry and no more bugs, weevils.

    Tom.


    "Carol S." <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I had a bag of brown rice in my pantry for a long time (over a year)
    > that was unopened. I finally decided to try it out, but when I poured
    > it into a pot, there were little brown bugs crawling around it, and
    > the rice grains were hollowed out. I threw it out, of course!
    >
    > I'm pretty sure they were rice weevils, based on a google search. My
    > question is do I have to throw out everything in my pantry now? I
    > inspected a few other things and didn't see any signs of the bugs.
    > Could they have just come along in that bag of rice to begin with, and
    > then just stayed there? How can they live in a plastic bag for a
    > year with no air or water?
    >
    > Thanks, Carol Scheible
    >
    twfsa, Dec 4, 2004
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  3. "Carol S." <> wrote in message
    news:...

    > I'm pretty sure they were rice weevils, based on a google search. My
    > question is do I have to throw out everything in my pantry now?


    Nah, the weevils were in the rice when you bought it. They had a nice life
    in the bag and probably never ventured out as they had plenty of good food
    where they lived.

    In the future, store large amounts of rice, flour, etc in the fridge or
    vacuum seal it.
    Edwin Pawlowski, Dec 4, 2004
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  4. Carol S.

    John Smith Guest

    Carol S. wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I had a bag of brown rice in my pantry for a long time (over a year)
    > that was unopened. I finally decided to try it out, but when I poured
    > it into a pot, there were little brown bugs crawling around it, and
    > the rice grains were hollowed out. I threw it out, of course!
    >
    > I'm pretty sure they were rice weevils, based on a google search. My
    > question is do I have to throw out everything in my pantry now? I
    > inspected a few other things and didn't see any signs of the bugs.
    > Could they have just come along in that bag of rice to begin with, and
    > then just stayed there? How can they live in a plastic bag for a
    > year with no air or water?
    >
    > Thanks, Carol Scheible
    >


    Although rare, it's possible that the bugs came with the bag. I
    once bought a bag of 50 lb of rice and put it in a closet. Before
    I had a chance to open the bag, bugs crawled out of it. For the
    past 25 years, I typically buy 100 lb of rice a year. That's the
    only bag that had problems.
    John Smith, Dec 4, 2004
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  5. Carol S.

    m Ransley Guest

    I went to Wall Mart and their black eye peas were infested with weavels.
    They eventualy changed brands. Bugs come from the field. Brown rice
    should always be freezed, the oils go rancid in apx 6 months. Bugs are
    everywhere, If other products look fine, they are.
    m Ransley, Dec 4, 2004
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  6. Carol S.

    John Smith Guest

    Joseph Meehan wrote:
    > I had some friends who had a fix for that. They put the rice (or
    > whatever dry product) in a container that would hold water. Add a block of
    > dry ice on top and put a non-sealed top on it. After a couple of days the
    > CO² that flooded the container had killed off any bugs that might have been
    > in it.
    >


    Dead but still in the rice.

    > I know it sounds bad, but you just don't get rice or flower or almost
    > any food without some bugs in it.
    >


    Huh? Most rice are clean.
    John Smith, Dec 4, 2004
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  7. "John Smith" <> wrote in message
    > Joseph Meehan wrote:
    >> After a couple of days the CO² that flooded the container had killed
    >> off any bugs that might have been in it.
    >>

    >
    > Dead but still in the rice.


    Protien. It's good for you.

    >
    >> I know it sounds bad, but you just don't get rice or flower or almost
    >> any food without some bugs in it.
    >>

    >
    > Huh? Most rice are clean.


    Sure, I belive you. That is why we have government standards for how many
    rodent hairs and excrement are allowed in our food.
    Edwin Pawlowski, Dec 4, 2004
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  8. Carol S.

    PJx Guest

    On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:24:40 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <>
    wrote:

    >
    >"John Smith" <> wrote in message
    >> Joseph Meehan wrote:
    >>> After a couple of days the CO² that flooded the container had killed
    >>> off any bugs that might have been in it.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Dead but still in the rice.

    >
    >Protien. It's good for you.
    >
    >>
    >>> I know it sounds bad, but you just don't get rice or flower or almost
    >>> any food without some bugs in it.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Huh? Most rice are clean.

    >
    >Sure, I belive you. That is why we have government standards for how many
    >rodent hairs and excrement are allowed in our food.
    >


    Exactly.

    I never throw out the bug infested product. The weevils fall out
    when you sift them with a screen bottom can or flour sifter. No
    problem.

    Pj
    PJx, Dec 4, 2004
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  9. Carol S.

    rj Guest

    We always leave flour, rice, or anything like that in the freezer for a
    couple of days before storing it in the cupboard. Had a bad experience with
    "pantry moths" a couple years ago. (in Alabama)
    RJ
    "Carol S." <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I had a bag of brown rice in my pantry for a long time (over a year)
    > that was unopened. I finally decided to try it out, but when I poured
    > it into a pot, there were little brown bugs crawling around it, and
    > the rice grains were hollowed out. I threw it out, of course!
    >
    > I'm pretty sure they were rice weevils, based on a google search. My
    > question is do I have to throw out everything in my pantry now? I
    > inspected a few other things and didn't see any signs of the bugs.
    > Could they have just come along in that bag of rice to begin with, and
    > then just stayed there? How can they live in a plastic bag for a
    > year with no air or water?
    >
    > Thanks, Carol Scheible
    >
    rj, Dec 4, 2004
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  10. Carol S.

    Lar Guest

    Lar, Dec 4, 2004
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  11. Carol S.

    Phisherman Guest

    On 4 Dec 2004 06:06:56 -0800, (Carol S.)
    wrote:

    >Hi,
    >
    >I had a bag of brown rice in my pantry for a long time (over a year)
    >that was unopened. I finally decided to try it out, but when I poured
    >it into a pot, there were little brown bugs crawling around it, and
    >the rice grains were hollowed out. I threw it out, of course!
    >
    >I'm pretty sure they were rice weevils, based on a google search. My
    >question is do I have to throw out everything in my pantry now? I
    >inspected a few other things and didn't see any signs of the bugs.
    >Could they have just come along in that bag of rice to begin with, and
    >then just stayed there? How can they live in a plastic bag for a
    >year with no air or water?
    >
    >Thanks, Carol Scheible
    >


    Inspect all your items for more weevils. Weevils can get through
    plastic bags but glass jars are safe. There's plenty of air and
    moisture in a bag of rice.
    Phisherman, Dec 4, 2004
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  12. Carol S.

    Jim B Guest

    On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 14:48:58 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <> wrote:

    >In the future, store large amounts of rice, flour, etc in the fridge or
    >vacuum seal it.


    I cannot say anything about flour, you NEVER store rice in fridge. We bought
    50/lbs each trip to Costco (remember dish radiant heater?) and kept in plastic
    containers, it remain bugs free for more than a year.
    Jim B, Dec 4, 2004
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  13. Carol S.

    Jim B Guest

    On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 14:53:19 GMT, John Smith <> wrote:

    I bought 50 lbs each time from Costco, I pour it into 5 gal plastic pickle or
    food container. One 50 lbs takes 1-1/2 containers. When I have one containers
    left, I go and buy another bags and keep on doing it. These food containers are
    free at any restaurants or fast food. They throw tons away everyday.

    Most people don't wash the rice properly (wash away the vitamins), they contain
    pesticides. Maybe Uncle Ben rice are process and don't need to wash.

    >Although rare, it's possible that the bugs came with the bag. I
    >once bought a bag of 50 lb of rice and put it in a closet. Before
    >I had a chance to open the bag, bugs crawled out of it. For the
    >past 25 years, I typically buy 100 lb of rice a year. That's the
    >only bag that had problems.
    Jim B, Dec 4, 2004
    #13
  14. Carol S. wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I had a bag of brown rice in my pantry for a long time (over a year)
    > that was unopened. I finally decided to try it out, but when I poured
    > it into a pot, there were little brown bugs crawling around it, and
    > the rice grains were hollowed out. I threw it out, of course!
    >
    > I'm pretty sure they were rice weevils, based on a google search. My
    > question is do I have to throw out everything in my pantry now? I
    > inspected a few other things and didn't see any signs of the bugs.
    > Could they have just come along in that bag of rice to begin with, and
    > then just stayed there? How can they live in a plastic bag for a
    > year with no air or water?
    >
    > Thanks, Carol Scheible
    >

    Bugs in rice is common, especially if it is imported. I've always
    thought that's why they tell you to wash the rice before cooking it.

    Bugs in birdseed are even more common. Sunflower seed produced a
    zillion flying type bugs. (My GF freeked out.)
    William W. Plummer, Dec 4, 2004
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  15. Carol S.

    m Ransley Guest

    JimB Brown and wild rice are best stored frozen, or the oil will become
    rancid in 6 months or less. As a matter of fact I just cooked 2 bags of
    1 yr old brown rice, it is fine. Read the label on Kretchmers Wheat
    Germ it says "refrigerate", that is because of the oil in the germ or
    in rice the husk. White rice is different it wont go bad but freezing
    it wont hurt if it is airtight
    m Ransley, Dec 4, 2004
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  16. Carol S.

    John Smith Guest

    William W. Plummer wrote:
    >
    > Bugs in rice is common, especially if it is imported. I've always
    > thought that's why they tell you to wash the rice before cooking it.
    >


    For the past 25 years, I have only had one bag of rice that had
    bugs in it. It's certainly not common to me.

    > Bugs in birdseed are even more common. Sunflower seed produced a
    > zillion flying type bugs. (My GF freeked out.)
    John Smith, Dec 4, 2004
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  17. Carol S.

    Jim B Guest

    On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 16:41:54 -0600, (m Ransley) wrote:

    I dunno about your rice or wild rice. There are more than 3.5 billion (give or
    take a few hundred millions) eat their rice from cooked unfreeze storage rice
    whether it is white or unpolished. Can you imagine these billions kept their
    rice in a fridge? Many do not even know what a fridge is. :)

    OK, maybe processed rice like Uncle Ben, Rice-a-Rony and whatever you keep them
    as suggest by the label. As for the billions, they will laugh at you if you tell
    them to store rice in a fridge. They have been eating rice for thousands of
    years, way before some smart Alex invents the fridge. <grin jokingly>.

    >JimB Brown and wild rice are best stored frozen, or the oil will become
    >rancid in 6 months or less. As a matter of fact I just cooked 2 bags of
    >1 yr old brown rice, it is fine. Read the label on Kretchmers Wheat
    >Germ it says "refrigerate", that is because of the oil in the germ or
    >in rice the husk. White rice is different it wont go bad but freezing
    >it wont hurt if it is airtight
    Jim B, Dec 4, 2004
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  18. "Jim B" <> wrote in message
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    > On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 16:41:54 -0600, (m Ransley) wrote:
    >
    > I dunno about your rice or wild rice. There are more than 3.5 billion
    > (give or
    > take a few hundred millions) eat their rice from cooked unfreeze storage
    > rice
    > whether it is white or unpolished. Can you imagine these billions kept
    > their
    > rice in a fridge? Many do not even know what a fridge is. :)


    Yep, and eating rat crap right along with it.
    Edwin Pawlowski, Dec 5, 2004
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  19. Carol S.

    Carol S. Guest

    "Carol S." <> wrote:
    > > I'm pretty sure they were rice weevils, based on a google search. My
    > > question is do I have to throw out everything in my pantry now?


    "Edwin Pawlowski" <> wrote:
    > Nah, the weevils were in the rice when you bought it. They had a nice life
    > in the bag and probably never ventured out as they had plenty of good food
    > where they lived.



    Thanks for the replies. I think you are right, that they came with
    the bag. I inspected everything in my pantry, and didn't see any sign
    of other infested items. So, I guess I won't worry about it unless I
    see more.

    PJx <> wrote:
    > I never throw out the bug infested product. The weevils fall out
    > when you sift them with a screen bottom can or flour sifter.


    I don't think I would sift out the bugs and then cook the rice - ick.
    Also, I think this bag was 50% or more damaged, so it probably
    wouldn't produce a quality bowl of rice - unless perhaps I wanted a
    carb-reduced rice :)
    Carol S., Dec 5, 2004
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  20. Carol S.

    Jim Yanik Guest

    (Carol S.) wrote in
    news::

    > Hi,
    >
    > I had a bag of brown rice in my pantry for a long time (over a year)
    > that was unopened. I finally decided to try it out, but when I poured
    > it into a pot, there were little brown bugs crawling around it, and
    > the rice grains were hollowed out. I threw it out, of course!
    >
    > I'm pretty sure they were rice weevils, based on a google search. My
    > question is do I have to throw out everything in my pantry now? I
    > inspected a few other things and didn't see any signs of the bugs.
    > Could they have just come along in that bag of rice to begin with, and
    > then just stayed there? How can they live in a plastic bag for a
    > year with no air or water?
    >
    > Thanks, Carol Scheible
    >


    It could have come from the store like that.
    I've seen bad pasta on the grocer's shelves.

    --
    Jim Yanik
    jyanik-at-kua.net
    Jim Yanik, Dec 5, 2004
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