boiler, carbon monoxide leak

Discussion in 'UK DIY' started by poachedeggs, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. poachedeggs

    poachedeggs Guest

    My friend's dad has had a plumber ascertain that he has a carbon
    monoxide leak problem with his boiler. The plumber is someone he's
    employed for 20 years and so my friend's dad is loathe to emply
    someone else. The plumber isn't able to sort it out till January the
    6th, and who knows hoe long it's been a leak. My friend has been
    feeling giddy on her visits. It's not council property, but her dad
    is in the middle of a depression since his wife's death, and of course
    it's not a season to have the windows all open and maybe he's a bit
    muddled by the leak.

    Should we be concerned? Should this job be done pretty sharpish? My
    friend isn't keen on visiting too soon because of how she felt on her
    last visit. If it's not too concerning, what things can be done in
    the meantime?

    I don't know diddly about this kind of thing, but it feels like
    something that needs sorting out as a matter of urgency. The only
    time I've ever heard of carbon monoxide is when it's part of the
    phrase 'carbon monoxide poisoning'.

    Thanks in advance.
     
    poachedeggs, Dec 13, 2008
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    Guest

    What a troll.



    On Dec 13, 9:56 am, poachedeggs <> wrote:
    > My friend's dad has had a plumber ascertain that he has a carbon
    > monoxide leak problem with his boiler.  The plumber is someone he's
    > employed for 20 years and so my friend's dad is loathe to emply
    > someone else.  The plumber isn't able to sort it out till January the
    > 6th, and who knows hoe long it's been a leak.


    So, he thinks so highly of his plumber that he's rather wind up in the
    hospital or dead instead of employ someone else?


     My friend has been
    > feeling giddy on her visits.


    Even more unbelievable. Even a dimwit would turn off the boiler and
    open the windows.


     It's not council property, but her dad
    > is in the middle of a depression since his wife's death, and of course
    > it's not a season to have the windows all open and maybe he's a bit
    > muddled by the leak.


    More likely your a muddled troll.


    >
    > Should we be concerned?  Should this job be done pretty sharpish?  My
    > friend isn't keen on visiting too soon because of how she felt on her
    > last visit.  If it's not too concerning, what things can be done in
    > the meantime?


    Sure, she just wants to let her father keep living there, right?



    >
    > I don't know diddly about this kind of thing, but it feels like
    > something that needs sorting out as a matter of urgency.  The only
    > time I've ever heard of carbon monoxide is when it's part of the
    > phrase 'carbon monoxide poisoning'.
    >
    > Thanks in advance.



    Are you sure you haven't been over there yourself or perhaps had your
    head in an oven for awhile?
     
    , Dec 13, 2008
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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    "poachedeggs" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > My friend's dad has had a plumber ascertain that he has a carbon
    > monoxide leak problem with his boiler. The plumber is someone he's
    > employed for 20 years and so my friend's dad is loathe to emply
    > someone else. The plumber isn't able to sort it out till January the
    > 6th, and who knows hoe long it's been a leak.
    >
    > Should we be concerned? Should this job be done pretty sharpish?


    Worst case scenario is that he can die today. You can set the priority
    based on that.
     
    Ed Pawlowski, Dec 13, 2008
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  4. "poachedeggs" <> wrote in message
    news:...

    > My friend's dad has had a plumber ascertain that he has a carbon
    > monoxide leak problem with his boiler. . . . but it feels like
    > something that needs sorting out as a matter of urgency. The only
    > time I've ever heard of carbon monoxide is when it's part of the
    > phrase 'carbon monoxide poisoning'.


    Ask the local authority's health and safety office.

    --
    Don Phillipson
    Carlsbad Springs
    (Ottawa, Canada)
     
    Don Phillipson, Dec 13, 2008
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    poachedeggs <> writes:
    > My friend's dad has had a plumber ascertain that he has a carbon
    > monoxide leak problem with his boiler. The plumber is someone he's


    He should have disconnected the gas supply from the
    boiler there and then, and attached a notice that it
    mustn't be used until fixed.

    This is supposing the leak is genuine, and not a case
    of trying to scare an old person into paying for a new
    heating system when it wasn't required.

    > Should we be concerned? Should this job be done pretty sharpish? My


    If there's no other source of heating and hot water, the
    house is effectively uninhabitable (particularly by an
    elderly person) at this time of year, until it's fixed.
    Can dad stay with the daughter until you get someone to
    fix it?

    --
    Andrew Gabriel
    [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
     
    Andrew Gabriel, Dec 13, 2008
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    Ed Sirett Guest

    On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:43:21 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

    > "poachedeggs" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> My friend's dad has had a plumber ascertain that he has a carbon
    >> monoxide leak problem with his boiler. The plumber is someone he's
    >> employed for 20 years and so my friend's dad is loathe to emply someone
    >> else. The plumber isn't able to sort it out till January the 6th, and
    >> who knows hoe long it's been a leak.
    >>
    >> Should we be concerned? Should this job be done pretty sharpish?

    >
    > Worst case scenario is that he can die today. You can set the priority
    > based on that.


    I had to read a few posts to be sure.
    Are you saying this 'plumber' did not turn the boiler off right there and
    then? If it IS leak CO into the house there are only two courses of action:
    Fix it or label it as dangerous (and disconnect it).

    --
    Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
    The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
    Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
    Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
    Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html
     
    Ed Sirett, Dec 13, 2008
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  7. poachedeggs

    Guest

    On 13 Dec, 15:56, poachedeggs <> wrote:
    > My friend's dad has had a plumber ascertain that he has a carbon
    > monoxide leak problem with his boiler.  The plumber is someone he's
    > employed for 20 years and so my friend's dad is loathe to emply
    > someone else.  The plumber isn't able to sort it out till January the
    > 6th, and who knows hoe long it's been a leak.  My friend has been
    > feeling giddy on her visits.  It's not council property, but her dad
    > is in the middle of a depression since his wife's death, and of course
    > it's not a season to have the windows all open and maybe he's a bit
    > muddled by the leak.
    >
    > Should we be concerned?  Should this job be done pretty sharpish?  My
    > friend isn't keen on visiting too soon because of how she felt on her
    > last visit.  If it's not too concerning, what things can be done in
    > the meantime?
    >
    > I don't know diddly about this kind of thing, but it feels like
    > something that needs sorting out as a matter of urgency.  The only
    > time I've ever heard of carbon monoxide is when it's part of the
    > phrase 'carbon monoxide poisoning'.
    >
    > Thanks in advance.


    If the plumber hasn't switched off the boiler, then: (a) he's
    criminally irresponsible, or (b) the leak isn't significant, or (c)
    it's a con to sell a new boiler, as Andrew suggests -- there seems to
    be a lot of "can't repair it, guv, you need a new one" around atm.

    If dad's not prepared to switch off, open a window (if only in the
    room the boiler is situated), or spend Xmas with his daughter, I
    suggest that he gets a CO detector PDQ which should establish whether
    there's any real danger.

    Chris
     
    , Dec 13, 2008
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    ransley Guest

    On Dec 13, 8:56 am, poachedeggs <> wrote:
    > My friend's dad has had a plumber ascertain that he has a carbon
    > monoxide leak problem with his boiler.  The plumber is someone he's
    > employed for 20 years and so my friend's dad is loathe to emply
    > someone else.  The plumber isn't able to sort it out till January the
    > 6th, and who knows hoe long it's been a leak.  My friend has been
    > feeling giddy on her visits.  It's not council property, but her dad
    > is in the middle of a depression since his wife's death, and of course
    > it's not a season to have the windows all open and maybe he's a bit
    > muddled by the leak.
    >
    > Should we be concerned?  Should this job be done pretty sharpish?  My
    > friend isn't keen on visiting too soon because of how she felt on her
    > last visit.  If it's not too concerning, what things can be done in
    > the meantime?
    >
    > I don't know diddly about this kind of thing, but it feels like
    > something that needs sorting out as a matter of urgency.  The only
    > time I've ever heard of carbon monoxide is when it's part of the
    > phrase 'carbon monoxide poisoning'.
    >
    > Thanks in advance.


    What you should do is get 2 good digital Co meters, like Nighthawk
    that have a memory function and put one near the heating unit and one
    in the living area and monitor them by pressing the "Peak" memory
    function. I would not trust any 'Friend" haa ha who let it running,
    gee I dont trust anyone anymore, to many liars out there for a buck.
    You have no idea of the cause , if in fact it is bad, it could be a
    dead bird in the chimney, a loose chimney pipe, or no problem at all,
    and you want so spend thousands. Our 25yr old friend is a crook, maybe
    your 20yr old one is too. Call another co to diagnose it if in fact
    you have a leak. Even if a Co alarm doesnt go off it does not mean
    there is not a health issue, thats why you monitor its memory peak,
    and reset it. Go to the hardware store and get a few units and see for
    yourself.
     
    ransley, Dec 13, 2008
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    YAPH Guest

    On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:56:14 -0800, poachedeggs wrote:

    > My friend's dad has had a plumber ascertain that he has a carbon
    > monoxide leak problem with his boiler. The plumber is someone he's
    > employed for 20 years and so my friend's dad is loathe to emply
    > someone else.


    He needs to find another plumber - or preferably a qualified and
    registered gas installer. If his boiler's leaking CO it *must* be
    categorised as "Immediate Danger" and shut off. If friend's dad's plumber
    didn't do that he's incompetent.

    > I don't know diddly about this kind of thing, but it feels like
    > something that needs sorting out as a matter of urgency. The only
    > time I've ever heard of carbon monoxide is when it's part of the
    > phrase 'carbon monoxide poisoning'.


    I suggest you or your friend call the gas emergency service (formerly
    Transco) on 0800 111 999 and explain your concerns. Really.

    And get round there with some electric heaters and hot water bottles for
    the old boy.



    --
    John Stumbles -- http://yaph.co.uk

    I forgot to take my amnesia medecine again
     
    YAPH, Dec 13, 2008
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  10. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember poachedeggs
    <> saying something like:

    >Should we be concerned? Should this job be done pretty sharpish?


    ASAP, and don't spare the horses.

    > My
    >friend isn't keen on visiting too soon because of how she felt on her
    >last visit. If it's not too concerning, what things can be done in
    >the meantime?


    Check his insurance policy and the cost of funerals, locally.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 14, 2008
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    ransley Guest

    On Dec 14, 4:40 am, Grimly Curmudgeon <>
    wrote:
    > We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    > drugs began to take hold. I remember poachedeggs
    > <> saying something like:
    >
    > >Should we be concerned?  Should this job be done pretty sharpish?

    >
    > ASAP, and don't spare the horses.
    >
    > >  My
    > >friend isn't keen on visiting too soon because of how she felt on her
    > >last visit.  If it's not too concerning, what things can be done in
    > >the meantime?

    >
    > Check his insurance policy and the cost of funerals, locally.


    Since it was left running it could be like the car salesman saying you
    car is dangerous, buy this one. Any "friend" would have gone and
    bought a Co meter, or diagnosed and fixed the issue, or done alot more
    than just say "its leakin Co, I gotta go" I know a here dealers
    purposly break or put in scratches to make it look like the exchanger
    is cracked, but this lifelong "friend" did nothing but ask for a job.
     
    ransley, Dec 14, 2008
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