Anything better than DECT...

Discussion in 'UK DIY' started by TonyK, Feb 6, 2005.

  1. TonyK

    TonyK Guest

    I live/work in a very large old Victorian mansion, i.e. lots of very thick
    stone walls, four floors etc etc. I have three DECT phones, two at one end
    and one at the other. they vary in cost from the cheapest, BT at about £75 &
    £100 to my own Samsung which was originally about £200 albeit a couple of
    years back.

    Now in theory DECT is DECT and they should have an optimum range of 300m
    (yeah right!). The cheapest struggles to go 15m between 3 rooms. The middle
    one is a bit better, and the Samsung better still. But none of them will do
    the 50m between reception and office. When I bought them I tried numerous
    models and these we're the best at the time but that was 2 years back.

    I did look at repeaters but each phone is actually on a different line so I
    think its getting a bit too complicated to extend the signal?

    Has the technology improved or is there something better out there?

    Ta
     
    TonyK, Feb 6, 2005
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  2. "TonyK" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I live/work in a very large old Victorian mansion, i.e. lots of very thick
    > stone walls, four floors etc etc. I have three DECT phones, two at one end
    > and one at the other. they vary in cost from the cheapest, BT at about £75
    > &
    > £100 to my own Samsung which was originally about £200 albeit a couple of
    > years back.
    >
    > Now in theory DECT is DECT and they should have an optimum range of 300m
    > (yeah right!). The cheapest struggles to go 15m between 3 rooms. The
    > middle
    > one is a bit better, and the Samsung better still. But none of them will
    > do
    > the 50m between reception and office. When I bought them I tried numerous
    > models and these we're the best at the time but that was 2 years back.
    >
    > I did look at repeaters but each phone is actually on a different line so
    > I
    > think its getting a bit too complicated to extend the signal?
    >
    > Has the technology improved or is there something better out there?


    There are super power phones out there, but they are illegal here. I
    searched for high power dect or something similar , and found something that
    would get through thirty floors IIRC, whether it would work on our phone
    system I don't know, or fry your brain on a quick call. I opted for two
    carefully placed repeaters on only one line though.

    mrcheerful
     
    mrcheerful , Feb 6, 2005
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  3. TonyK wrote:

    > I live/work in a very large old Victorian mansion, i.e. lots of very thick
    > stone walls, four floors etc etc. I have three DECT phones, two at one end
    > and one at the other. they vary in cost from the cheapest, BT at about £75 &
    > £100 to my own Samsung which was originally about £200 albeit a couple of
    > years back.
    >
    > Now in theory DECT is DECT and they should have an optimum range of 300m
    > (yeah right!). The cheapest struggles to go 15m between 3 rooms. The middle
    > one is a bit better, and the Samsung better still. But none of them will do
    > the 50m between reception and office. When I bought them I tried numerous
    > models and these we're the best at the time but that was 2 years back.
    >
    > I did look at repeaters but each phone is actually on a different line so I
    > think its getting a bit too complicated to extend the signal?
    >
    > Has the technology improved or is there something better out there?
    >
    > Ta
    >
    >

    Yes. Cat 5 cable and a small PABX.
     
    The Natural Philosopher, Feb 6, 2005
    #3
  4. TonyK

    TonyK Guest

    "The Natural Philosopher" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > TonyK wrote:
    >
    > > I live/work in a very large old Victorian mansion, i.e. lots of very

    thick
    > > stone walls, four floors etc etc. I have three DECT phones, two at one

    end
    > > and one at the other. they vary in cost from the cheapest, BT at about

    £75 &
    > > £100 to my own Samsung which was originally about £200 albeit a couple

    of
    > > years back.
    > >
    > > Now in theory DECT is DECT and they should have an optimum range of 300m
    > > (yeah right!). The cheapest struggles to go 15m between 3 rooms. The

    middle
    > > one is a bit better, and the Samsung better still. But none of them will

    do
    > > the 50m between reception and office. When I bought them I tried

    numerous
    > > models and these we're the best at the time but that was 2 years back.
    > >
    > > I did look at repeaters but each phone is actually on a different line

    so I
    > > think its getting a bit too complicated to extend the signal?
    > >
    > > Has the technology improved or is there something better out there?
    > >
    > > Ta
    > >
    > >

    > Yes. Cat 5 cable and a small PABX.


    You mean fixed points around the building? I need portable handsets.
     
    TonyK, Feb 6, 2005
    #4
  5. TonyK

    Lurch Guest

    On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 08:05:03 -0000, "TonyK" <>
    strung together this:

    >Has the technology improved or is there something better out there?
    >

    DECT repeaters. Not sure what's available for domestic GAP usage, I've
    only used them on PABX's with cell stations but the idea is that you
    have one base station with DECT repeaters around the property that
    boost that single base stations signal.
    Similar in operation to mobile phone and television transmission
    techniques.
    --

    SJW
    Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject
     
    Lurch, Feb 6, 2005
    #5
  6. In article <>,
    TonyK <> wrote:
    > Now in theory DECT is DECT and they should have an optimum range of 300m
    > (yeah right!). The cheapest struggles to go 15m between 3 rooms. The
    > middle one is a bit better, and the Samsung better still. But none of
    > them will do the 50m between reception and office. When I bought them I
    > tried numerous models and these we're the best at the time but that was
    > 2 years back.


    Think you're unlucky, or have unusual local circumstances. I've got two -
    with one base station at the top of the three story Victorian pile, and
    one on the ground floor. Both cover the entire house and garden fine. Even
    the old analogue cordless in the workshop does too.

    --
    *Learn from your parents' mistakes - use birth control.

    Dave Plowman London SW
    To e-mail, change noise into sound.
     
    Dave Plowman (News), Feb 6, 2005
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  7. TonyK

    Mike Guest

    "TonyK" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I live/work in a very large old Victorian mansion, i.e. lots of very thick
    > stone walls, four floors etc etc. I have three DECT phones, two at one end
    > and one at the other. they vary in cost from the cheapest, BT at about £75

    &
    > £100 to my own Samsung which was originally about £200 albeit a couple of
    > years back.
    >
    > Now in theory DECT is DECT and they should have an optimum range of 300m
    > (yeah right!). The cheapest struggles to go 15m between 3 rooms. The

    middle
    > one is a bit better, and the Samsung better still. But none of them will

    do
    > the 50m between reception and office. When I bought them I tried numerous
    > models and these we're the best at the time but that was 2 years back.
    >
    > I did look at repeaters but each phone is actually on a different line so

    I
    > think its getting a bit too complicated to extend the signal?
    >
    > Has the technology improved or is there something better out there?



    Alcatel Spain make high power ones for the South American market where DECT
    is used instead of wires to connect to all the houses in small villages.
    They even do special base stations. Not legal here and not sure where you
    would buy one anyway.
     
    Mike, Feb 6, 2005
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  8. TonyK

    Lurch Guest

    On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:31:12 -0000, "Mike" <> strung
    together this:

    >Alcatel Spain make high power ones for the South American market where DECT
    >is used instead of wires to connect to all the houses in small villages.
    >They even do special base stations.


    Sounds like good advice so far.

    >Not legal here


    Ah, perhaps it's not very good advice at all then.

    >and not sure where you
    >would buy one anyway.
    >

    Er, I'd guess Spain, or somewhere in South America?
    --

    SJW
    Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject
     
    Lurch, Feb 6, 2005
    #8
  9. TonyK

    Mike Guest

    "Lurch" <> wrote in message
    news:p...
    > On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:31:12 -0000, "Mike" <> strung
    > together this:
    >
    > >Alcatel Spain make high power ones for the South American market where

    DECT
    > >is used instead of wires to connect to all the houses in small villages.
    > >They even do special base stations.

    >
    > Sounds like good advice so far.
    >
    > >Not legal here

    >
    > Ah, perhaps it's not very good advice at all then.


    Well we all break the law now and then, especially ones like Part P.
    These units have variable power so I don't think using them would cause a
    problem noticed by others.


    > >and not sure where you would buy one anyway.
    > >

    > Er, I'd guess Spain, or somewhere in South America?


    Probably :)
     
    Mike, Feb 6, 2005
    #9
  10. TonyK

    Lurch Guest

    On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 21:47:15 -0000, "Mike" <> strung
    together this:

    >Well we all break the law now and then, especially ones like Part P.
    >These units have variable power so I don't think using them would cause a
    >problem noticed by others.
    >

    I thought that, I'd probably go with the repeaters myself. The
    advantage of the repeaters is that they will also give you a constant
    signal over a wide area as opposed to a huge signal at the base and a
    not quite so huge signal proportionate to how far away you are.
    --

    SJW
    Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject
     
    Lurch, Feb 6, 2005
    #10
  11. TonyK wrote:

    > "The Natural Philosopher" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>TonyK wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I live/work in a very large old Victorian mansion, i.e. lots of very

    >
    > thick
    >
    >>>stone walls, four floors etc etc. I have three DECT phones, two at one

    >
    > end
    >
    >>>and one at the other. they vary in cost from the cheapest, BT at about

    >
    > £75 &
    >
    >>>£100 to my own Samsung which was originally about £200 albeit a couple

    >
    > of
    >
    >>>years back.
    >>>
    >>>Now in theory DECT is DECT and they should have an optimum range of 300m
    >>>(yeah right!). The cheapest struggles to go 15m between 3 rooms. The

    >
    > middle
    >
    >>>one is a bit better, and the Samsung better still. But none of them will

    >
    > do
    >
    >>>the 50m between reception and office. When I bought them I tried

    >
    > numerous
    >
    >>>models and these we're the best at the time but that was 2 years back.
    >>>
    >>>I did look at repeaters but each phone is actually on a different line

    >
    > so I
    >
    >>>think its getting a bit too complicated to extend the signal?
    >>>
    >>>Has the technology improved or is there something better out there?
    >>>
    >>>Ta
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>Yes. Cat 5 cable and a small PABX.

    >
    >
    > You mean fixed points around the building? I need portable handsets.
    >
    >

    Why? Can't you walk 5 feet to a phone?
     
    The Natural Philosopher, Feb 7, 2005
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